1 00:04:02,100 --> 00:01:16,969 foreign 2 00:04:19,629 --> 00:04:11,090 [Music] 3 00:04:24,530 --> 00:04:22,189 the Army Air Forces has announced that 4 00:04:30,550 --> 00:04:24,540 applying this has been found and is now 5 00:04:37,850 --> 00:04:34,249 I occasionally think how quickly our 6 00:04:40,310 --> 00:04:37,860 difference is worldwide to Advantage if 7 00:04:41,950 --> 00:04:40,320 we were facing an alien threat from 8 00:04:43,450 --> 00:04:41,960 outside this work 9 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:43,460 [Music] 10 00:04:48,290 --> 00:04:44,610 [Applause] 11 00:04:50,450 --> 00:04:49,430 it's your host 12 00:04:54,909 --> 00:04:50,460 Church 13 00:04:59,750 --> 00:04:58,749 I need your help to get to the year 14 00:05:03,969 --> 00:04:59,760 1985. 15 00:05:06,710 --> 00:05:03,979 [Music] 16 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:06,720 you are listening to fade to black with 17 00:05:12,249 --> 00:05:09,520 Jimmy judge on The Game Changer Network 18 00:05:15,770 --> 00:05:12,259 [Music] 19 00:05:15,780 --> 00:05:19,390 Fade to Black 20 00:05:25,969 --> 00:05:22,310 bespoke radio 21 00:05:28,570 --> 00:05:25,979 four the 22 00:05:32,770 --> 00:05:28,580 masses 23 00:05:37,670 --> 00:05:32,780 yeah man how you doing today's Tuesday 24 00:05:48,189 --> 00:05:42,050 Dave Schrader let's do this man 25 00:05:50,029 --> 00:05:48,199 [Music] 26 00:05:52,249 --> 00:05:50,039 I would like to welcome everybody 27 00:05:54,469 --> 00:05:52,259 listening all around the world all 28 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:54,479 across the United States 29 00:05:58,310 --> 00:05:56,639 hither and tether to and fro back and 30 00:06:01,850 --> 00:05:58,320 forth up and down east and west north 31 00:06:04,670 --> 00:06:01,860 and south far and near 32 00:06:06,710 --> 00:06:04,680 this is Fade to Black for kjcr the game 33 00:06:08,450 --> 00:06:06,720 changer Network I am your host Jimmy 34 00:06:11,330 --> 00:06:08,460 Church 35 00:06:12,950 --> 00:06:11,340 what is cracking everybody how are you 36 00:06:21,770 --> 00:06:12,960 doing 37 00:06:23,510 --> 00:06:21,780 on this very programmed tonight 38 00:06:25,909 --> 00:06:23,520 right here 39 00:06:28,249 --> 00:06:25,919 Dave Schrader 40 00:06:30,050 --> 00:06:28,259 that's right 41 00:06:32,270 --> 00:06:30,060 Dave Schrader is with us we're going to 42 00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:32,280 be talking about our Spooky World 43 00:06:37,510 --> 00:06:34,319 tonight 44 00:06:40,249 --> 00:06:37,520 well I've got a little warm-up for that 45 00:06:44,529 --> 00:06:40,259 in just a minute 46 00:06:46,550 --> 00:06:44,539 and then uh tomorrow night Richard Dolan 47 00:06:47,749 --> 00:06:46,560 Richard Nolan's gonna be here tomorrow 48 00:06:52,730 --> 00:06:47,759 night we're going to be talking about 49 00:06:55,670 --> 00:06:52,740 that much delayed UFO UAP report what's 50 00:06:57,529 --> 00:06:55,680 going on with that what does he know 51 00:06:59,629 --> 00:06:57,539 gonna pick his brain about that tomorrow 52 00:07:01,969 --> 00:06:59,639 night and so much more lots to talk 53 00:07:04,969 --> 00:07:01,979 about with uh Mr Dolan that's tomorrow 54 00:07:08,090 --> 00:07:04,979 night Thursday is another fader night 55 00:07:09,529 --> 00:07:08,100 with open lines all night long all right 56 00:07:11,450 --> 00:07:09,539 now coming up 57 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:11,460 coming up I will be hosting and I'm 58 00:07:16,490 --> 00:07:13,440 seeing the conscious life Expo this 59 00:07:19,930 --> 00:07:16,500 February 10th through the 13th 2023 at 60 00:07:23,570 --> 00:07:19,940 The Lax Hilton I'm going to be hosting 61 00:07:28,249 --> 00:07:23,580 uh a luncheon I'm going to be hosting 62 00:07:31,309 --> 00:07:28,259 the expo's got talent talent show uh I 63 00:07:34,730 --> 00:07:31,319 will be doing the ancient Secrets uh 64 00:07:36,249 --> 00:07:34,740 panel that I do every year and I think 65 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:36,259 that's on Friday night 66 00:07:42,290 --> 00:07:39,840 and I think the luncheon is 67 00:07:45,710 --> 00:07:42,300 oh oh I don't know is that Saturday 68 00:07:48,670 --> 00:07:45,720 afternoon or is that Sunday gotta go 69 00:07:51,309 --> 00:07:48,680 check out the schedule conscious life 70 00:07:54,110 --> 00:07:51,319 expo.com all right the links are below 71 00:07:57,830 --> 00:07:54,120 and then uh two weeks after that I will 72 00:08:00,290 --> 00:07:57,840 be hosting the parapod festival that is 73 00:08:03,290 --> 00:08:00,300 Saturday April 1st here in Southern 74 00:08:07,089 --> 00:08:03,300 California in Valencia at the Hyatt 75 00:08:10,670 --> 00:08:07,099 Regency it's a live one day media event 76 00:08:14,330 --> 00:08:10,680 awards ceremony podcast Awards Film 77 00:08:17,990 --> 00:08:14,340 Festival you can submit your media what 78 00:08:20,230 --> 00:08:18,000 have you got you can submit right now 79 00:08:22,249 --> 00:08:20,240 all you got to do is click on the link 80 00:08:24,230 --> 00:08:22,259 parapodfilmfest.com the link is below 81 00:08:27,110 --> 00:08:24,240 we've also got it throughout social 82 00:08:29,869 --> 00:08:27,120 media then a week after that April 7th 83 00:08:32,570 --> 00:08:29,879 through the 14th 2023 I will be hosting 84 00:08:36,889 --> 00:08:32,580 and presenting on the hidden secrets 85 00:08:39,170 --> 00:08:36,899 seminar at Sea cruise right to Parts out 86 00:08:41,510 --> 00:08:39,180 of La we're gonna go down to Mexico turn 87 00:08:43,550 --> 00:08:41,520 around and come back Scott Walter is 88 00:08:46,910 --> 00:08:43,560 going to be there Adam Apollo Nick Pope 89 00:08:50,570 --> 00:08:46,920 Brad Olson Vivian Chauvet it's going to 90 00:08:53,509 --> 00:08:50,580 be great so go on a cruise with me click 91 00:08:55,610 --> 00:08:53,519 on the link below all right everything 92 00:08:58,130 --> 00:08:55,620 that I'm doing is in the description box 93 00:09:02,769 --> 00:08:58,140 below right so you can click their 94 00:09:06,350 --> 00:09:02,779 social media uh our website uh podcast 95 00:09:08,990 --> 00:09:06,360 TV film all that stuff all of the events 96 00:09:11,509 --> 00:09:09,000 I'm doing everything is below so you can 97 00:09:13,130 --> 00:09:11,519 go and visit our sponsors and and all 98 00:09:14,810 --> 00:09:13,140 the conferences and all the other stuff 99 00:09:19,250 --> 00:09:14,820 it's right there 100 00:09:22,250 --> 00:09:19,260 um crazy breaking news day today and I 101 00:09:25,910 --> 00:09:22,260 barely kept up with all of it it was uh 102 00:09:27,130 --> 00:09:25,920 pretty nutty day uh around here fun day 103 00:09:31,070 --> 00:09:27,140 though 104 00:09:32,990 --> 00:09:31,080 fun day oh yeah yeah I'm gonna talk more 105 00:09:35,690 --> 00:09:33,000 about that in just a bit 106 00:09:38,150 --> 00:09:35,700 what goes on in my world 107 00:09:40,630 --> 00:09:38,160 yeah stay tuned but let's get to the 108 00:09:42,410 --> 00:09:40,640 breaking news 109 00:09:46,430 --> 00:09:42,420 scientist 110 00:09:49,250 --> 00:09:46,440 just found I hope you're sitting down 111 00:09:50,870 --> 00:09:49,260 scientists just found a hidden 112 00:09:58,610 --> 00:09:50,880 sixth 113 00:10:01,970 --> 00:09:58,620 past new evidence suggests that a global 114 00:10:06,530 --> 00:10:01,980 drop in oxygen levels about 550 million 115 00:10:08,690 --> 00:10:06,540 years ago led to the Earth's first known 116 00:10:12,110 --> 00:10:08,700 mass extinction 117 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:12,120 the height of the idea Karen period 118 00:10:20,269 --> 00:10:16,560 about 550 million years ago was a boom 119 00:10:23,570 --> 00:10:20,279 time for life in Earth's oceans but then 120 00:10:26,829 --> 00:10:23,580 80 percent of life on Earth disappeared 121 00:10:29,630 --> 00:10:26,839 leaving no traces in the fossil record 122 00:10:31,490 --> 00:10:29,640 now a new study suggests that these 123 00:10:35,030 --> 00:10:31,500 missing fossils point to the earliest 124 00:10:36,889 --> 00:10:35,040 known Max Extinction event on Earth the 125 00:10:40,130 --> 00:10:36,899 first communities of large complex 126 00:10:43,130 --> 00:10:40,140 animals were killed by a steep Global 127 00:10:45,410 --> 00:10:43,140 decline in oxygen 128 00:10:47,810 --> 00:10:45,420 the period may have ended in a mass 129 00:10:50,690 --> 00:10:47,820 extinction event caused by low oxygen 130 00:10:52,790 --> 00:10:50,700 availability in the ocean the 131 00:10:55,130 --> 00:10:52,800 researchers published their findings in 132 00:10:58,730 --> 00:10:55,140 the journal proceedings of the National 133 00:11:00,769 --> 00:10:58,740 Academy of Sciences you can go and check 134 00:11:03,710 --> 00:11:00,779 that out now 135 00:11:05,090 --> 00:11:03,720 talk about ancient history 136 00:11:07,430 --> 00:11:05,100 got to get on the phone with Scott 137 00:11:12,530 --> 00:11:07,440 Walter about this one because 138 00:11:15,829 --> 00:11:12,540 a discovery of a rare gold coin on the 139 00:11:17,630 --> 00:11:15,839 south coast of Newfoundland Canada May 140 00:11:19,730 --> 00:11:17,640 challenge traditional historical 141 00:11:22,430 --> 00:11:19,740 narratives about the timing of European 142 00:11:24,889 --> 00:11:22,440 contact in the region as it predates 143 00:11:27,170 --> 00:11:24,899 Explorer John Cabot's arrival on the 144 00:11:31,130 --> 00:11:27,180 island by at least 145 00:11:33,829 --> 00:11:31,140 70 years in a press release last week 146 00:11:36,350 --> 00:11:33,839 the government of Newfoundland and 147 00:11:38,449 --> 00:11:36,360 Labrador said that the English coin was 148 00:11:42,889 --> 00:11:38,459 found during a summer of during the 149 00:11:45,230 --> 00:11:42,899 summer of 2022 by Edward Hines a local 150 00:11:47,690 --> 00:11:45,240 amateur historian who reported it to 151 00:11:51,069 --> 00:11:47,700 officials as required under the 152 00:11:54,410 --> 00:11:51,079 province's historic resources act the 153 00:11:57,050 --> 00:11:54,420 600-year-old coin predates the first 154 00:11:58,130 --> 00:11:57,060 documented European contact with North 155 00:12:01,310 --> 00:11:58,140 America 156 00:12:05,050 --> 00:12:01,320 since the Vikings the coin was 157 00:12:12,410 --> 00:12:05,060 identified as a Henry VI quarter Noble 158 00:12:14,630 --> 00:12:12,420 minted in London between 1422 and 1427. 159 00:12:16,509 --> 00:12:14,640 absolutely incredible 160 00:12:18,530 --> 00:12:16,519 well Thursday 161 00:12:22,009 --> 00:12:18,540 last week 162 00:12:24,650 --> 00:12:22,019 a mysterious Blue Streak appeared across 163 00:12:26,030 --> 00:12:24,660 the skies over a bisco a small village 164 00:12:28,670 --> 00:12:26,040 in Sweden 165 00:12:31,069 --> 00:12:28,680 quite different from a regular Aurora 166 00:12:31,910 --> 00:12:31,079 experts had hard time categorizing what 167 00:12:35,449 --> 00:12:31,920 it was 168 00:12:36,949 --> 00:12:35,459 Aurora 169 00:12:39,410 --> 00:12:36,959 however 170 00:12:42,590 --> 00:12:39,420 there was a stark contrast between the 171 00:12:46,370 --> 00:12:42,600 stationary Blue Streak and the actively 172 00:12:48,230 --> 00:12:46,380 moving green Aurora around it after a 173 00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:48,240 thorough investigation it was concluded 174 00:12:54,610 --> 00:12:51,600 that the Blue Streak was the result of a 175 00:12:56,930 --> 00:12:54,620 Russian submarine testing 176 00:13:00,470 --> 00:12:56,940 icbms that's right intercontinental 177 00:13:02,769 --> 00:13:00,480 ballistic missiles all right now roughly 178 00:13:08,329 --> 00:13:02,779 uh 179 00:13:10,190 --> 00:13:08,339 Bitcoin Bitcoin is in it is in a bad in 180 00:13:13,790 --> 00:13:10,200 a bad place right now 181 00:13:16,610 --> 00:13:13,800 and a report was just released that 182 00:13:20,509 --> 00:13:16,620 roughly three quarters of people who 183 00:13:22,190 --> 00:13:20,519 have bought Bitcoin have lost money all 184 00:13:24,949 --> 00:13:22,200 of this according to a study that was 185 00:13:27,769 --> 00:13:24,959 published yesterday Economist at the 186 00:13:30,590 --> 00:13:27,779 bank of international settlements an 187 00:13:35,050 --> 00:13:30,600 institution widely considered as the 188 00:13:37,850 --> 00:13:35,060 central banks of central banks all right 189 00:13:41,050 --> 00:13:37,860 analyzed data on investors in 190 00:13:45,889 --> 00:13:41,060 cryptocurrencies in 95 countries between 191 00:13:51,410 --> 00:13:48,290 three out of four people 192 00:13:53,269 --> 00:13:51,420 absolutely incredible now this is uh 193 00:13:54,769 --> 00:13:53,279 pretty disturbing but you need to listen 194 00:13:56,629 --> 00:13:54,779 to me carefully 195 00:13:59,810 --> 00:13:56,639 air carriers 196 00:14:02,870 --> 00:13:59,820 commercial airlines will be unable to 197 00:14:04,730 --> 00:14:02,880 fully meet deadlines to retrofit planes 198 00:14:10,009 --> 00:14:04,740 to avoid interference from the latest 199 00:14:12,829 --> 00:14:10,019 generation of 5G c-band wireless service 200 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:12,839 the aviation industry said all of this 201 00:14:19,190 --> 00:14:15,600 today urging the White House to help 202 00:14:22,690 --> 00:14:19,200 avert a standoff concerns that 5G 203 00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:22,700 Services would in would and could 204 00:14:27,949 --> 00:14:25,680 interfere with airplanes altimeters 205 00:14:30,590 --> 00:14:27,959 which give data on the plane's height 206 00:14:34,009 --> 00:14:30,600 above the ground are crucial for bad 207 00:14:37,430 --> 00:14:34,019 weather Landing led to disruptions at 208 00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:37,440 some U.S airports earlier this year a 209 00:14:43,790 --> 00:14:39,440 letter signed by Airlines for America 210 00:14:46,430 --> 00:14:43,800 Boeing Airbus and Briar Aviation unions 211 00:14:49,310 --> 00:14:46,440 and others back the Federal Aviation 212 00:14:51,710 --> 00:14:49,320 Administration request to mandate an 213 00:14:56,889 --> 00:14:51,720 extension of mitigation by Wireless 214 00:14:58,730 --> 00:14:56,899 carriers as Airlines retrofit radio 215 00:15:01,730 --> 00:14:58,740 altimeters 216 00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:01,740 absolutely incredible all right Google 217 00:15:07,389 --> 00:15:04,320 back in the news because Google 218 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:07,399 will pay a 219 00:15:14,990 --> 00:15:10,920 391.5 million dollar settlement 220 00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:15,000 or after over 40 States alleged that the 221 00:15:20,689 --> 00:15:17,760 tech giant illegally tracked users 222 00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:20,699 locations the company was accused of 223 00:15:24,910 --> 00:15:22,800 violating State consumer consumer 224 00:15:28,490 --> 00:15:24,920 protection laws by tracking customers 225 00:15:31,310 --> 00:15:28,500 including when their location tracking 226 00:15:34,430 --> 00:15:31,320 settings were turned off 227 00:15:37,009 --> 00:15:34,440 that's right an investigation was led by 228 00:15:38,990 --> 00:15:37,019 Oregon and Nebraska and comes as state 229 00:15:41,269 --> 00:15:39,000 attorney generals have recently become 230 00:15:44,329 --> 00:15:41,279 more aggressive in targeting the firm's 231 00:15:46,910 --> 00:15:44,339 user tracking practices the settlement 232 00:15:51,110 --> 00:15:46,920 is the largest consumer privacy 233 00:15:54,350 --> 00:15:51,120 settlement by States in U.S history 234 00:15:56,990 --> 00:15:54,360 Google previously settled a similar suit 235 00:16:00,470 --> 00:15:57,000 brought by the state of Arizona for 85 236 00:16:03,710 --> 00:16:00,480 million dollars Indiana Texas Washington 237 00:16:06,590 --> 00:16:03,720 and the District of Columbia also sued 238 00:16:10,269 --> 00:16:06,600 the company in January over deceptive 239 00:16:14,090 --> 00:16:10,279 location tracking practices 240 00:16:15,710 --> 00:16:14,100 absolutely incredible all right at your 241 00:16:16,910 --> 00:16:15,720 breaking news let's get this show 242 00:16:21,710 --> 00:16:16,920 cracking 243 00:16:25,790 --> 00:16:23,150 otd 244 00:16:29,050 --> 00:16:25,800 1965. 245 00:16:33,050 --> 00:16:29,060 at the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah 246 00:16:35,530 --> 00:16:33,060 28 year old Craig Breedlove sets a new 247 00:16:39,230 --> 00:16:35,540 land speed record 248 00:16:42,050 --> 00:16:39,240 600.601 miles an hour in his car the 249 00:16:43,430 --> 00:16:42,060 spirit of America which cost two hundred 250 00:16:46,490 --> 00:16:43,440 and fifty thousand dollars and was 251 00:16:51,470 --> 00:16:46,500 powered by a surplus engine from a Navy 252 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:51,480 jet on this day in 1965 at the Peterson 253 00:16:56,810 --> 00:16:54,240 Automotive Museum I'm pretty sure 254 00:16:59,509 --> 00:16:56,820 they've got the spirit of America there 255 00:17:02,030 --> 00:16:59,519 and the ground floor pretty sure it's 256 00:17:04,189 --> 00:17:02,040 the spirit of America I could be wrong 257 00:17:06,169 --> 00:17:04,199 fader fact 258 00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:06,179 check this out 259 00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:08,160 I read 260 00:17:14,470 --> 00:17:11,760 the history the biography of this guy 261 00:17:19,789 --> 00:17:14,480 today it's absolutely incredible 262 00:17:22,970 --> 00:17:19,799 ignaz Samuel Weiss the inventor of 263 00:17:26,530 --> 00:17:22,980 washing your hands with soap 264 00:17:30,289 --> 00:17:26,540 was called and I quote scientifically 265 00:17:31,909 --> 00:17:30,299 unsound end quote and confined to an 266 00:17:35,330 --> 00:17:31,919 insane asylum 267 00:17:41,029 --> 00:17:37,370 and that 268 00:17:43,010 --> 00:17:41,039 is your fader fact go and check it out 269 00:17:46,450 --> 00:17:43,020 go and check it it's an incredible story 270 00:17:49,070 --> 00:17:46,460 incredible all right 271 00:17:50,690 --> 00:17:49,080 tonight we welcome very special guest 272 00:17:53,390 --> 00:17:50,700 Dave Schrader is with us we're going to 273 00:17:56,090 --> 00:17:53,400 be talking about our Spooky World 274 00:17:58,130 --> 00:17:56,100 tomorrow night Richard Dolan he's going 275 00:18:01,310 --> 00:17:58,140 to be back and we are talking 276 00:18:04,490 --> 00:18:01,320 uh tomorrow night about the much delayed 277 00:18:06,890 --> 00:18:04,500 UFO UAP report lots of rumors going 278 00:18:10,010 --> 00:18:06,900 around what does uh what does Richard 279 00:18:13,070 --> 00:18:10,020 know uh if I've heard anything I'll 280 00:18:15,950 --> 00:18:13,080 share tomorrow night and uh what's going 281 00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:15,960 on with that lots of rumors and then 282 00:18:20,810 --> 00:18:18,000 Thursday is another fader night with 283 00:18:22,190 --> 00:18:20,820 open lines all night long all right now 284 00:18:23,090 --> 00:18:22,200 it's time for me to hit this River Moon 285 00:18:27,890 --> 00:18:23,100 coffee 286 00:18:31,010 --> 00:18:29,390 I've been drinking it through the whole 287 00:18:33,289 --> 00:18:31,020 show it's cold 288 00:18:36,770 --> 00:18:33,299 I've got my thermals on 289 00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:36,780 but you know with my 290 00:18:41,029 --> 00:18:38,160 my 291 00:18:44,090 --> 00:18:41,039 Ozzy Osbourne t-shirt over the top 292 00:18:46,010 --> 00:18:44,100 it's cold it's cold kinda gotta drink my 293 00:18:53,930 --> 00:18:46,020 coffee River Moon 294 00:19:01,070 --> 00:18:56,450 go back Lee tappy 295 00:19:03,830 --> 00:19:01,080 yeah all right now 296 00:19:05,990 --> 00:19:03,840 tonight Dave Schrader is on the show 297 00:19:08,810 --> 00:19:06,000 and we're going to be talking about our 298 00:19:12,890 --> 00:19:08,820 Spooky World and 299 00:19:15,890 --> 00:19:12,900 and I I want to share with you 300 00:19:18,650 --> 00:19:15,900 my day my day today 301 00:19:20,029 --> 00:19:18,660 what I went through from that moment I 302 00:19:25,010 --> 00:19:20,039 woke up 303 00:19:27,289 --> 00:19:25,020 crazy day spooky day haunting day 304 00:19:29,570 --> 00:19:27,299 um and it started last night because 305 00:19:33,529 --> 00:19:29,580 well okay let's let's go back to this 306 00:19:33,539 --> 00:19:37,850 I got up 307 00:19:43,010 --> 00:19:40,430 walked in the bathroom 308 00:19:46,610 --> 00:19:43,020 looked in the mirror 309 00:19:52,490 --> 00:19:49,730 well that was scary 310 00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:52,500 now when you do that when you're when 311 00:19:56,390 --> 00:19:54,720 you're by yourself and you talk to 312 00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:56,400 yourself especially looking in the 313 00:20:00,710 --> 00:19:57,360 mirror 314 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,770 I meant it 315 00:20:03,780 --> 00:20:06,529 now 316 00:20:11,630 --> 00:20:09,590 last night 317 00:20:14,570 --> 00:20:11,640 I set myself up 318 00:20:16,370 --> 00:20:14,580 I did I didn't know it let me explain 319 00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:16,380 let me explain let me let me get into 320 00:20:22,130 --> 00:20:18,240 this 321 00:20:23,810 --> 00:20:22,140 it it was just absolutely bizarre so I'm 322 00:20:27,950 --> 00:20:23,820 going to go through all of this I want 323 00:20:33,590 --> 00:20:30,250 because 324 00:20:36,350 --> 00:20:33,600 okay first I did something that you 325 00:20:40,250 --> 00:20:36,360 should never do alone 326 00:20:48,049 --> 00:20:44,630 I watched a documentary called 327 00:20:53,450 --> 00:20:50,870 a documentary 328 00:20:55,549 --> 00:20:53,460 all right now now okay okay I got 329 00:20:58,190 --> 00:20:55,559 through the first 30 minutes of it 330 00:21:01,970 --> 00:20:58,200 before I turned it off 331 00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:01,980 and here's the deal 332 00:21:09,289 --> 00:21:05,280 I'm alone I'm in this big house 333 00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:09,299 you know and and and this documentary is 334 00:21:18,049 --> 00:21:13,520 just too much and it it it it it wasn't 335 00:21:20,450 --> 00:21:18,059 necessarily the people that you know one 336 00:21:22,669 --> 00:21:20,460 after another rapid fire click click 337 00:21:25,970 --> 00:21:22,679 click sharing their stories and 338 00:21:27,409 --> 00:21:25,980 encounters with black Shadows wearing 339 00:21:32,029 --> 00:21:27,419 hats 340 00:21:37,610 --> 00:21:34,549 to this 341 00:21:41,390 --> 00:21:37,620 it was the drawings 342 00:21:43,310 --> 00:21:41,400 of what they were seeing and describing 343 00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:43,320 you know and you know like little kid 344 00:21:47,930 --> 00:21:45,360 drawings with the channel but they had 345 00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:47,940 someone with smile you know and and read 346 00:21:54,049 --> 00:21:52,320 the thing that little just tall and you 347 00:21:57,289 --> 00:21:54,059 know and 348 00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:57,299 and I found myself 349 00:22:01,930 --> 00:22:00,000 at one point I'm watching these drawings 350 00:22:05,210 --> 00:22:01,940 and I'm watching this thing 351 00:22:08,570 --> 00:22:05,220 and it wasn't what I expected this this 352 00:22:10,250 --> 00:22:08,580 documentary got to me and and I found 353 00:22:12,289 --> 00:22:10,260 myself at one point man I just like 354 00:22:16,130 --> 00:22:12,299 glanced to my left man I go look through 355 00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:16,140 my bathroom door it's dark in there 356 00:22:22,909 --> 00:22:20,640 and uh and I'm halfway expecting to see 357 00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:22,919 something there you know you know 358 00:22:27,169 --> 00:22:25,440 staring back at me I mean I was really 359 00:22:28,850 --> 00:22:27,179 working myself up 360 00:22:32,029 --> 00:22:28,860 and I was like 361 00:22:34,490 --> 00:22:32,039 that's it that's it enough is enough 362 00:22:37,610 --> 00:22:34,500 starting to freak myself out here you 363 00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:37,620 know so turn the TV off 364 00:22:44,330 --> 00:22:39,200 and 365 00:22:47,510 --> 00:22:44,340 because 366 00:22:51,169 --> 00:22:47,520 I on my nightstand 367 00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:51,179 um I picked up my copy of Jay Allen 368 00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:54,240 heineck's uh book the heineck UFO report 369 00:22:58,990 --> 00:22:56,880 the authoritative account of the Project 370 00:23:02,090 --> 00:22:59,000 Blue Book cover-up 371 00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:02,100 J Allen heideck you know 372 00:23:07,549 --> 00:23:04,080 and this thing was published back in 373 00:23:09,770 --> 00:23:07,559 1977 and in a lot of ways 374 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:09,780 um to me it's more relevant today than 375 00:23:14,029 --> 00:23:11,400 when he wrote it back in the day but 376 00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:14,039 that's beside the point 377 00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:16,559 so 378 00:23:20,950 --> 00:23:20,159 um I got the TV off I pick up heinek's 379 00:23:24,289 --> 00:23:20,960 book 380 00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:24,299 and somewhere 381 00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:26,640 um around chapter five 382 00:23:35,090 --> 00:23:30,419 heineck uh talks about these two cases 383 00:23:40,730 --> 00:23:35,100 and one was like a a trout farm 384 00:23:43,610 --> 00:23:40,740 in Idaho it's like 1947. these two cases 385 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:43,620 um no mention of Roswell by the way 386 00:23:47,930 --> 00:23:46,320 um or Kenneth Arnold but he's talking 387 00:23:50,450 --> 00:23:47,940 about these two cases and one was a 388 00:23:53,149 --> 00:23:50,460 trout farm in Idaho with a father and I 389 00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:53,159 think two sons or three sons and and and 390 00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:54,960 stuff and there was a river there and 391 00:24:00,590 --> 00:23:56,880 they see this thing thousand miles per 392 00:24:01,850 --> 00:24:00,600 hour and flying saucer and uh uh the 393 00:24:03,649 --> 00:24:01,860 other cat I can't remember what the 394 00:24:05,090 --> 00:24:03,659 other one was right now but but that's 395 00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:05,100 not the point 396 00:24:11,570 --> 00:24:07,679 the point is 397 00:24:13,070 --> 00:24:11,580 I was starting to get sleepy I'm reading 398 00:24:15,770 --> 00:24:13,080 a book and you know what happens right 399 00:24:19,490 --> 00:24:15,780 you know you get sleepy and I was like 400 00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:19,500 oh and I had finally gotten 401 00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:24,000 Shadow hat dude out of my mind 402 00:24:32,029 --> 00:24:25,440 so 403 00:24:34,610 --> 00:24:32,039 if heinek's UFO report 404 00:24:35,810 --> 00:24:34,620 is on Audible 405 00:24:37,850 --> 00:24:35,820 right 406 00:24:41,210 --> 00:24:37,860 I mean if it is 407 00:24:43,250 --> 00:24:41,220 I can go to this chapter this one I'm 408 00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:43,260 thinking all of this in my mind I just 409 00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:45,840 want to keep it going and keep Shadow 410 00:24:52,909 --> 00:24:49,679 hat dude out of out of this thing 411 00:24:54,890 --> 00:24:52,919 and and so if it's on Audible 412 00:24:56,330 --> 00:24:54,900 I can go to the chapter that I'm in 413 00:25:01,610 --> 00:24:56,340 right now 414 00:25:05,090 --> 00:25:01,620 and listen to these two cases from uh uh 415 00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:05,100 Blue Book right makes sense 416 00:25:11,690 --> 00:25:08,720 so I go to audible on my iPad 417 00:25:14,210 --> 00:25:11,700 Heineken there it is 418 00:25:18,110 --> 00:25:14,220 it's like all right cool you know do the 419 00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:18,120 purchase do the confirmation boom I cue 420 00:25:24,830 --> 00:25:19,200 it up 421 00:25:29,090 --> 00:25:24,840 lights 422 00:25:32,029 --> 00:25:29,100 and and I slowly phased out 423 00:25:33,230 --> 00:25:32,039 I phased out the heinek's blue book 424 00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:33,240 stories 425 00:25:43,010 --> 00:25:40,669 it was cool for a little bit 426 00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:43,020 now 427 00:25:54,350 --> 00:25:52,320 book or whatever 428 00:25:57,649 --> 00:25:54,360 um all I know is 429 00:26:00,110 --> 00:25:57,659 my dreams were full 430 00:26:02,450 --> 00:26:00,120 of little gray dudes running around my 431 00:26:05,149 --> 00:26:02,460 bedroom in the dark 432 00:26:08,090 --> 00:26:05,159 I mean like seriously 433 00:26:11,690 --> 00:26:08,100 like in a messed up way 434 00:26:14,090 --> 00:26:11,700 and uh and I woke up 435 00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:14,100 and I'm kind of I'm freaked out 436 00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:17,279 and I look around and I'm just like what 437 00:26:23,289 --> 00:26:18,960 you know and and 438 00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:23,299 you know all is good nothing is there 439 00:26:27,769 --> 00:26:25,260 oh man 440 00:26:29,810 --> 00:26:27,779 right so 441 00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:29,820 I laid back down 442 00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:31,679 close my eyes 443 00:26:37,370 --> 00:26:34,559 calm down and the Bluetooth speaker 444 00:26:41,450 --> 00:26:37,380 connected to my iPad 445 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:41,460 creates this really faint Echo 446 00:26:48,529 --> 00:26:44,880 that bounces around my room 447 00:26:51,169 --> 00:26:48,539 and and honestly it sounds like someone 448 00:26:54,049 --> 00:26:51,179 else is talking 449 00:26:57,230 --> 00:26:54,059 somewhere else in the house 450 00:27:00,529 --> 00:26:57,240 it's it's this Echo 451 00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:00,539 you know and so anyway so as I fell 452 00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:02,640 asleep 453 00:27:08,029 --> 00:27:05,039 it went from an echo of the voice 454 00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:08,039 reading heinek's book 455 00:27:12,769 --> 00:27:10,559 to another conversation altogether 456 00:27:15,529 --> 00:27:12,779 but I'm sleeping 457 00:27:18,529 --> 00:27:15,539 I'm dreaming 458 00:27:22,010 --> 00:27:18,539 but I hear it 459 00:27:25,490 --> 00:27:22,020 it was and so the dream 460 00:27:28,190 --> 00:27:25,500 the dream goes from Little Grays you 461 00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:28,200 know to to the shadow hat dude in the 462 00:27:32,029 --> 00:27:29,760 grays 463 00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:32,039 to The Voice 464 00:27:44,690 --> 00:27:41,450 and I mean my eyes pop open I don't know 465 00:27:46,490 --> 00:27:44,700 how long I was asleep but for a minute 466 00:27:49,070 --> 00:27:46,500 or two 467 00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:49,080 I do hear the voice 468 00:27:53,870 --> 00:27:51,840 and it's it's it's different 469 00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:53,880 than the voice coming out of the speaker 470 00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:55,679 it's not an echo it's like it's 471 00:28:04,610 --> 00:28:01,490 and I'm just like oh my God 472 00:28:06,350 --> 00:28:04,620 seriously it was really messed up and to 473 00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:06,360 be totally honest here 474 00:28:10,669 --> 00:28:09,360 I knew then and I know now that it 475 00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:10,679 wasn't real 476 00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:13,919 but that didn't call my nerves 477 00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:15,840 so I turn around 478 00:28:21,230 --> 00:28:18,840 I turn off heinek's Audible 479 00:28:25,010 --> 00:28:21,240 silence right 480 00:28:28,490 --> 00:28:25,020 no more Echo voices in the night 481 00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:28,500 the room is dark right but nothing is 482 00:28:33,890 --> 00:28:32,000 moving around and after my heart rate 483 00:28:35,810 --> 00:28:33,900 settled down 484 00:28:37,730 --> 00:28:35,820 you know I crawled back under the covers 485 00:28:41,870 --> 00:28:37,740 and I dropped off 486 00:28:43,549 --> 00:28:41,880 and so so here's the thing 487 00:28:45,769 --> 00:28:43,559 tonight 488 00:28:47,570 --> 00:28:45,779 after the show 489 00:28:48,769 --> 00:28:47,580 what do I do 490 00:28:51,289 --> 00:28:48,779 right 491 00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:51,299 I've got choices I know what happened 492 00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:52,799 last night do I want to go through that 493 00:28:56,510 --> 00:28:54,480 again it was kind of fun 494 00:28:59,810 --> 00:28:56,520 pretty scary 495 00:29:02,390 --> 00:28:59,820 you know do I go back to heineck's book 496 00:29:05,630 --> 00:29:02,400 probably not at least not the audible 497 00:29:09,769 --> 00:29:05,640 version The Voice the tone the timber 498 00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:09,779 the pitch it's the perfect Echo that 499 00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:11,760 creates another conversation it's 500 00:29:16,130 --> 00:29:13,200 bizarre 501 00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:16,140 another Shadow Man Documentary no no no 502 00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:19,200 no no no I think probably what I should 503 00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:20,399 do 504 00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:23,520 is like go and watch season one of Parks 505 00:29:27,649 --> 00:29:25,679 and Recreation 506 00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:27,659 that's right 507 00:29:30,649 --> 00:29:29,760 and so tonight we have Dave Schrader on 508 00:29:32,269 --> 00:29:30,659 the show 509 00:29:34,669 --> 00:29:32,279 Dave is with us we're going to be 510 00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:34,679 talking about our Spooky World we're 511 00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:36,960 going to talk about do we Manifest this 512 00:29:42,590 --> 00:29:41,039 stuff did I do did I set myself up 513 00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:42,600 it's Jay 514 00:29:47,450 --> 00:29:44,880 Allen heinek man 515 00:29:49,370 --> 00:29:47,460 what's what's going on with that 516 00:29:51,649 --> 00:29:49,380 it was crazy it was nuts tomorrow night 517 00:29:54,289 --> 00:29:51,659 Richard Dolan is here we're going to be 518 00:29:55,610 --> 00:29:54,299 talking about 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00:35:07,790 --> 00:35:05,760 former host of the long-running 606 00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:07,800 Paranormal show Darkness Radio lead 607 00:35:11,329 --> 00:35:09,119 investigator in the paranormal 608 00:35:14,210 --> 00:35:11,339 paranormal Travel Channel series The 609 00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:14,220 Holzer files today he has paranormal 60 610 00:35:18,589 --> 00:35:16,079 with Dave Schrader here from looking 611 00:35:21,170 --> 00:35:18,599 field to the genre that he has been a 612 00:35:22,190 --> 00:35:21,180 part of for so long shorter interviews 613 00:35:24,670 --> 00:35:22,200 cutting to the heart of the story 614 00:35:27,410 --> 00:35:24,680 insights from experts and experiencers 615 00:35:29,390 --> 00:35:27,420 that's right since an early age he's 616 00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:29,400 been surrounded by the strange the 617 00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:30,720 anomalous 618 00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:33,359 haunted homes creature sightings UFO 619 00:35:38,750 --> 00:35:36,000 encounters everything he continues to 620 00:35:41,930 --> 00:35:38,760 bring all of this and his journey uh 621 00:35:43,730 --> 00:35:41,940 with with all of us every single week he 622 00:35:45,650 --> 00:35:43,740 has been investigating everything 623 00:35:48,170 --> 00:35:45,660 himself visiting some of the most active 624 00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:48,180 and haunted locations in the world he 625 00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,400 doesn't hunt the Paranormal it haunts 626 00:35:54,290 --> 00:35:52,320 him 627 00:35:57,069 --> 00:35:54,300 and with that I had a cough 628 00:35:59,329 --> 00:35:57,079 see that that right there Dave 629 00:36:01,609 --> 00:35:59,339 that's paranormal 630 00:36:03,530 --> 00:36:01,619 as you I was just about to cough and 631 00:36:06,530 --> 00:36:03,540 join with you we're fighting the The 632 00:36:08,089 --> 00:36:06,540 Rona in this household so um I will be 633 00:36:10,609 --> 00:36:08,099 riding my mute button throughout the 634 00:36:14,030 --> 00:36:10,619 night and I'm sucking on Halls lozenges 635 00:36:18,530 --> 00:36:14,040 and water hopefully that'll coat me yeah 636 00:36:22,270 --> 00:36:18,540 I uh I um I went to Egypt and I got back 637 00:36:26,990 --> 00:36:22,280 uh October 12th today is November 15th 638 00:36:30,589 --> 00:36:27,000 and uh man I I just been fighting it for 639 00:36:32,750 --> 00:36:30,599 for a month and it came and went 640 00:36:36,530 --> 00:36:32,760 um now I took all the tests so it wasn't 641 00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:36,540 it wasn't the Rona but man man I got the 642 00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:38,760 pharaoh's Funk or whatever man I don't 643 00:36:45,349 --> 00:36:41,760 know what I don't know you know you 644 00:36:48,430 --> 00:36:45,359 visit those tombs that's where Monroe 645 00:36:53,150 --> 00:36:50,990 unwrapping mummies you know that's right 646 00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:53,160 and you know I'm going to tell you 647 00:36:58,010 --> 00:36:54,000 something 648 00:36:59,870 --> 00:36:58,020 you know how you go uh you go into like 649 00:37:02,150 --> 00:36:59,880 your grandmother's attic and there's 650 00:37:07,069 --> 00:37:02,160 that smell you know that attic smell 651 00:37:09,470 --> 00:37:07,079 okay go into a 5 000 year old pyramid 652 00:37:13,370 --> 00:37:09,480 it's a whole other level of funk man 653 00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:13,380 it's a whole it's it's like 654 00:37:16,810 --> 00:37:14,960 oh okay 655 00:37:19,970 --> 00:37:16,820 all right 656 00:37:22,430 --> 00:37:19,980 what's going on here it's it's trippy 657 00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:22,440 it's trippy it it's a it's a strange 658 00:37:27,290 --> 00:37:24,720 experience but uh I'm heading to uh I'm 659 00:37:28,970 --> 00:37:27,300 heading to Egypt in February and are you 660 00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:28,980 gonna do the whole thing 661 00:37:32,690 --> 00:37:31,200 uh no I'm just gonna stop at an In-N-Out 662 00:37:34,970 --> 00:37:32,700 burger and then head home yeah I'm gonna 663 00:37:39,470 --> 00:37:34,980 do the whole thing come on hey Dave Dave 664 00:37:41,170 --> 00:37:39,480 I warned you earlier it's gonna be this 665 00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:41,180 kind of night 666 00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:44,400 no seriously um are you gonna go are you 667 00:37:50,450 --> 00:37:47,599 gonna go south and uh you know Alexa 668 00:37:52,190 --> 00:37:50,460 Cairo Giza yeah we're gonna see it all 669 00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:52,200 and we're doing it uh I've got like I 670 00:37:56,030 --> 00:37:54,240 think four to six slots still open if 671 00:37:58,010 --> 00:37:56,040 anybody's interested in joining me 672 00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:58,020 because we're uh we're doing it as a 673 00:38:03,290 --> 00:38:00,000 paranormal adventure and we've got uh 674 00:38:04,849 --> 00:38:03,300 wow amazing host out there who is tapped 675 00:38:07,550 --> 00:38:04,859 in the metaphysical and into the 676 00:38:09,230 --> 00:38:07,560 egyptology world and she will be uh 677 00:38:12,410 --> 00:38:09,240 walking us through this experience 678 00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:12,420 experience and very cool so if anybody's 679 00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:14,640 interested darknessevents.com they can 680 00:38:19,490 --> 00:38:17,040 go find information and join me so 681 00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:19,500 you're gonna do Sakara too uh you know 682 00:38:26,510 --> 00:38:23,760 the pyramid and step pyramid Red Pyramid 683 00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:26,520 um I got to tell you be be pretty here's 684 00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:29,040 the thing is this your first time yes 685 00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:32,880 okay my it was my first time so 686 00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:34,320 um and you and I are really good friends 687 00:38:38,810 --> 00:38:36,320 so let me give you some advice 688 00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:38,820 to the two of us Dave it's just the two 689 00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:40,800 of us that's just you and me it's just 690 00:38:44,569 --> 00:38:42,000 you and me 691 00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:44,579 um be prepared man 692 00:38:53,390 --> 00:38:48,480 um there is there's some action uh going 693 00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:53,400 on and I didn't you know I I study Egypt 694 00:38:57,410 --> 00:38:55,440 just like everybody I'm into it I love 695 00:38:59,329 --> 00:38:57,420 it it's beautiful and I thought that I 696 00:39:01,010 --> 00:38:59,339 was you know I thought that I was ready 697 00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:01,020 there's 698 00:39:11,210 --> 00:39:08,400 thing that combines and when you least 699 00:39:13,069 --> 00:39:11,220 expect it you know and I was like what 700 00:39:14,569 --> 00:39:13,079 you know and I didn't have it wasn't 701 00:39:16,430 --> 00:39:14,579 like I had somebody holding my hand 702 00:39:20,270 --> 00:39:16,440 going okay this is what's going on right 703 00:39:23,690 --> 00:39:20,280 now with you yeah no and uh it was a lot 704 00:39:25,790 --> 00:39:23,700 of fun man it's uh you'll see you'll see 705 00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:25,800 you're gonna you're gonna have uh you're 706 00:39:30,530 --> 00:39:28,200 gonna make some contact well we're gonna 707 00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:30,540 be there for the 100th anniversary of 708 00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:33,119 the opening of King Tut's tomb and we 709 00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:36,720 get access to Howard Carter's house so 710 00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:39,119 gonna be pretty cool pretty spectacular 711 00:39:46,130 --> 00:39:44,880 we did uh we did okay we stayed at I'm 712 00:39:49,010 --> 00:39:46,140 trying to think of the name of the hotel 713 00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:49,020 now The Winter Palace I think that's 714 00:39:53,510 --> 00:39:50,400 what it's called 715 00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:53,520 um and that's where Carter did the press 716 00:39:58,190 --> 00:39:56,160 conference right right there on the 717 00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:58,200 steps and it's it's a it's a beautiful 718 00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:00,000 hotel 719 00:40:04,190 --> 00:40:02,640 um and and the history of everything and 720 00:40:06,290 --> 00:40:04,200 you walk around you're like well yeah 721 00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:06,300 that's that's where it went down right 722 00:40:09,290 --> 00:40:07,680 okay 723 00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:09,300 um yeah we did the whole thing uh Valley 724 00:40:14,750 --> 00:40:13,440 of the Kings and and uh enough people 725 00:40:17,390 --> 00:40:14,760 have been listening to me talk about 726 00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:17,400 Egypt now since I got back it was just 727 00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:19,680 extraordinary and 728 00:40:26,150 --> 00:40:22,560 um the spiritual side of it though uh 729 00:40:28,609 --> 00:40:26,160 it's it's 5 000 years of of Ghost and 730 00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:28,619 and things wandering around there and 731 00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:30,960 it's for real you're gonna love it yeah 732 00:40:34,970 --> 00:40:32,880 that's that's why I'm going as a 733 00:40:37,310 --> 00:40:34,980 schraders of the Lost Ark event so 734 00:40:40,010 --> 00:40:37,320 people can join me we'll have a little 735 00:40:42,109 --> 00:40:40,020 fun see Schrader knots traders of the 736 00:40:46,370 --> 00:40:42,119 Lost Ark dude I could play that game all 737 00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:46,380 night long oh man I love it though uh uh 738 00:40:50,089 --> 00:40:48,000 I'm wondering 739 00:40:52,250 --> 00:40:50,099 I'm going back there twice next year 740 00:40:54,290 --> 00:40:52,260 should I make it three times 741 00:40:56,569 --> 00:40:54,300 should I go maybe should I go with you 742 00:41:00,410 --> 00:40:56,579 God you and I would have a blast man 743 00:41:03,230 --> 00:41:00,420 yeah uh if you you just wait and okay 744 00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:03,240 I'll say this before we move on the 745 00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:07,200 Great Pyramid amazing Giza amazing it is 746 00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:10,260 right and the build up wait till you see 747 00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:12,720 the rest of Egypt yeah you're gonna go 748 00:41:17,390 --> 00:41:14,220 well yeah the great pyramid's pretty 749 00:41:21,290 --> 00:41:17,400 cool man but dang yeah this is pretty 750 00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:21,300 you know that Walmart wow the Egyptian 751 00:41:25,490 --> 00:41:23,040 Walmart in the shape of a pyramid I'm 752 00:41:27,650 --> 00:41:25,500 looking forward to that the 753 00:41:30,650 --> 00:41:27,660 um man Traders on his game tonight man 754 00:41:32,510 --> 00:41:30,660 he's he's all jacked up with fast food 755 00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:32,520 see here's the thing 756 00:41:38,450 --> 00:41:36,000 um a one one last note and and just put 757 00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:38,460 this in the back of your mind 758 00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:41,160 um when you fly into Cairo 759 00:41:46,670 --> 00:41:43,380 and you look out the window 760 00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:46,680 and you see the size of Cairo 761 00:41:51,410 --> 00:41:48,240 you're not going to be prepared for that 762 00:41:55,130 --> 00:41:51,420 you're not you you no it's the biggest 763 00:41:57,470 --> 00:41:55,140 city in the world and not only so you 764 00:42:02,870 --> 00:41:57,480 have that right but it's like the 765 00:42:06,290 --> 00:42:02,880 biggest city by far right it's just you 766 00:42:09,530 --> 00:42:06,300 will not you will not get over you will 767 00:42:12,589 --> 00:42:09,540 not get used to the size of Cairo it's a 768 00:42:15,170 --> 00:42:12,599 5 000 year old city right 769 00:42:17,329 --> 00:42:15,180 um which is just a crazy thing so you've 770 00:42:20,990 --> 00:42:17,339 got this mix of old and new it's ancient 771 00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:21,000 man gisa is Cairo right so you've got 772 00:42:27,410 --> 00:42:24,000 the 5 000 year old pyramids that are 773 00:42:29,870 --> 00:42:27,420 part of Cairo and uh but the size of the 774 00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:29,880 city and and the people and the traffic 775 00:42:34,370 --> 00:42:32,640 and the smiles on their face it's just 776 00:42:37,609 --> 00:42:34,380 it's gonna it's gonna blow your mind 777 00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:37,619 it's gonna freak you out it yeah so just 778 00:42:43,130 --> 00:42:40,560 get just go church is Right whoa whoa 779 00:42:45,530 --> 00:42:43,140 whoa so yeah you're gonna love it it's 780 00:42:48,589 --> 00:42:45,540 incredible can't wait can't wait that's 781 00:42:51,109 --> 00:42:48,599 been a uh the spot I wanted to go I 782 00:42:53,450 --> 00:42:51,119 wanted Australia I got to Australia I 783 00:42:56,930 --> 00:42:53,460 wanted England got to England uh been to 784 00:42:58,970 --> 00:42:56,940 Germany Prague France Ireland Scotland 785 00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:58,980 Egypt was really kind of the last one on 786 00:43:03,290 --> 00:43:00,960 my bucket list for right now 787 00:43:04,910 --> 00:43:03,300 uh so I gotta start adding that bucket 788 00:43:06,290 --> 00:43:04,920 list because it's getting short man I 789 00:43:08,530 --> 00:43:06,300 don't wanna I don't want to hit a goal 790 00:43:11,690 --> 00:43:08,540 too quick yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah 791 00:43:15,770 --> 00:43:11,700 enough I I could talk about Egypt all 792 00:43:18,050 --> 00:43:15,780 night uh seriously it was a profound uh 793 00:43:21,890 --> 00:43:18,060 moving experience and 794 00:43:25,370 --> 00:43:21,900 it was everything and and more uh for me 795 00:43:27,470 --> 00:43:25,380 personally but the spiritual journey I 796 00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:27,480 mean it's it's nuts man it's nuts when 797 00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:30,240 you go to dendara and you start to 798 00:43:34,250 --> 00:43:31,920 absorb 799 00:43:36,170 --> 00:43:34,260 um you know culturally 800 00:43:39,109 --> 00:43:36,180 um and you know what what what it 801 00:43:42,290 --> 00:43:39,119 represents it it soaks in it's it's it's 802 00:43:44,690 --> 00:43:42,300 a it's a mind-blowing experience so 803 00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:44,700 um now I was uh I sent you an email 804 00:43:49,849 --> 00:43:47,280 earlier today which uh I don't know if 805 00:43:52,849 --> 00:43:49,859 you caught the opening of the show 806 00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:52,859 um but I talked about the email that I 807 00:44:00,650 --> 00:43:54,960 sent you and and what happened last 808 00:44:03,950 --> 00:44:00,660 night and it was it was crazy can we 809 00:44:06,650 --> 00:44:03,960 um of all things that got me into this 810 00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:06,660 nightmare thing that was uh going down 811 00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:08,160 last night 812 00:44:12,589 --> 00:44:09,599 um it was 813 00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:12,599 Jay Allen heineck right his Project Blue 814 00:44:17,569 --> 00:44:13,520 Book 815 00:44:20,210 --> 00:44:17,579 uh uh report that he wrote in 1977. 816 00:44:21,470 --> 00:44:20,220 that's that's what started to kick 817 00:44:24,290 --> 00:44:21,480 things off and I watched this 818 00:44:26,750 --> 00:44:24,300 documentary on I think it was called the 819 00:44:31,069 --> 00:44:26,760 Hat man I could have that wrong 820 00:44:33,410 --> 00:44:31,079 um and and the mix of this man man I 821 00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,420 mean can we Manifest this stuff is it 822 00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:35,760 something that uh 823 00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:38,160 you know I I 824 00:44:42,530 --> 00:44:41,040 was hearing things I didn't thank 825 00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:42,540 goodness I didn't see anything last 826 00:44:46,130 --> 00:44:44,640 night when I woke up but I was hearing 827 00:44:47,630 --> 00:44:46,140 things and I was hearing things in my 828 00:44:50,990 --> 00:44:47,640 sleep 829 00:44:53,210 --> 00:44:51,000 um and it I just got terrified 830 00:44:54,650 --> 00:44:53,220 all right well let's let's de-evolve 831 00:44:56,329 --> 00:44:54,660 some of this I know you want it to get 832 00:44:58,910 --> 00:44:56,339 spooky tonight but let's try to keep 833 00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:58,920 people on an even path sometimes when we 834 00:45:03,770 --> 00:45:01,440 see something that affects us and a dark 835 00:45:05,870 --> 00:45:03,780 presence on a show and you hear about 836 00:45:07,970 --> 00:45:05,880 how people that you respect and like 837 00:45:09,650 --> 00:45:07,980 have had these experiences and there's 838 00:45:11,809 --> 00:45:09,660 people reporting it that you believe in 839 00:45:15,530 --> 00:45:11,819 and you have faith in it starts to 840 00:45:17,630 --> 00:45:15,540 suddenly play games with you now I have 841 00:45:20,690 --> 00:45:17,640 been looking into Shadow People for a 842 00:45:22,970 --> 00:45:20,700 better part of 15 16 years and I found 843 00:45:25,069 --> 00:45:22,980 some interesting elements to it 844 00:45:27,050 --> 00:45:25,079 um the Hat man we'll get into in a 845 00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:27,060 little bit but there there seems to be 846 00:45:32,210 --> 00:45:28,800 this strange 847 00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,220 aspect that also fits very closely with 848 00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:34,560 the alien visitations 849 00:45:39,230 --> 00:45:37,440 a lot of people that I've talked to have 850 00:45:40,730 --> 00:45:39,240 had these experiences where they wake up 851 00:45:44,270 --> 00:45:40,740 at night and surrounding the better 852 00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:44,280 these shadowy figures now are we being 853 00:45:49,370 --> 00:45:47,520 cloaked is it one of those false flag uh 854 00:45:51,470 --> 00:45:49,380 memories that we've been given so that 855 00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:51,480 we can't clearly see what it is we're 856 00:45:55,130 --> 00:45:52,560 dealing with 857 00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:55,140 what I've always asked and I I say 858 00:45:59,690 --> 00:45:57,839 um you know what when I'm in an audience 859 00:46:02,030 --> 00:45:59,700 a show of hands how many people believe 860 00:46:04,490 --> 00:46:02,040 shadow people are are evil 861 00:46:05,930 --> 00:46:04,500 and sometimes you get half the audience 862 00:46:07,790 --> 00:46:05,940 and I'm like why is that is it because 863 00:46:10,309 --> 00:46:07,800 it's a dark presence and most people are 864 00:46:13,069 --> 00:46:10,319 like yeah and I said what if that's all 865 00:46:15,650 --> 00:46:13,079 that's left of Jimmy Church's spirit 866 00:46:17,329 --> 00:46:15,660 that's he's literally a shadow of the 867 00:46:20,089 --> 00:46:17,339 man he once was there's nothing left 868 00:46:23,150 --> 00:46:20,099 corporeal that he can't resonate at a 869 00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:23,160 light frequency that allows definition 870 00:46:27,290 --> 00:46:25,680 he's just at that end of the the fade 871 00:46:29,809 --> 00:46:27,300 out like a Polaroid you take it it's 872 00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:29,819 Crystal Clear it's nice 10 15 20 years 873 00:46:33,530 --> 00:46:30,960 later you pull it out of the drawer and 874 00:46:35,809 --> 00:46:33,540 it's bleaching out and fading away what 875 00:46:37,730 --> 00:46:35,819 if that's similar to what happens to the 876 00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:37,740 soul or the essence that's left behind 877 00:46:45,650 --> 00:46:41,760 is that it simply changing and that's 878 00:46:47,569 --> 00:46:45,660 all that is left of that person so I 879 00:46:49,490 --> 00:46:47,579 think that there's some of that element 880 00:46:51,829 --> 00:46:49,500 um the people that have these 881 00:46:53,450 --> 00:46:51,839 encounters I say okay 882 00:46:55,010 --> 00:46:53,460 how many of you have seen them in your 883 00:46:57,470 --> 00:46:55,020 room and I get maybe a quarter of the 884 00:46:59,930 --> 00:46:57,480 audience really I said right and I go 885 00:47:01,609 --> 00:46:59,940 okay standing by your bed kneeling by 886 00:47:03,530 --> 00:47:01,619 your bed peeking up over the end of the 887 00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:03,540 bed yeah that's the the normal I said 888 00:47:06,829 --> 00:47:05,520 okay kind of terrifying when you think 889 00:47:08,450 --> 00:47:06,839 about it and you say it out loud and 890 00:47:10,190 --> 00:47:08,460 people are like yeah 891 00:47:12,109 --> 00:47:10,200 and then I said okay 892 00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,119 but once you get over that initial shock 893 00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:14,640 and awe of seeing these things 894 00:47:19,309 --> 00:47:16,260 what do you usually do 895 00:47:21,050 --> 00:47:19,319 99 of the people say they kind of roll 896 00:47:22,849 --> 00:47:21,060 over and go to sleep 897 00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:22,859 so now again this is fitting pretty 898 00:47:27,530 --> 00:47:26,160 neatly into alien 899 00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:27,540 Mythos 900 00:47:32,089 --> 00:47:30,000 but I also think we are at our most 901 00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:32,099 vulnerable when we sleep 902 00:47:36,890 --> 00:47:34,319 because if we truly are astral 903 00:47:38,030 --> 00:47:36,900 projecting if our soul is leaving our 904 00:47:41,569 --> 00:47:38,040 body 905 00:47:44,329 --> 00:47:41,579 that leaves the vessel open 906 00:47:46,130 --> 00:47:44,339 so maybe these are our Guardian Angels 907 00:47:47,809 --> 00:47:46,140 maybe these are our ancestors or 908 00:47:50,089 --> 00:47:47,819 relatives that are there to stand watch 909 00:47:52,130 --> 00:47:50,099 over us while we make that Journey 910 00:47:54,530 --> 00:47:52,140 and make sure that we return safely and 911 00:47:56,569 --> 00:47:54,540 without passengers because for you to 912 00:47:58,370 --> 00:47:56,579 wake up and see something now 913 00:48:01,130 --> 00:47:58,380 if you wake up and I'm standing at the 914 00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:01,140 end of your bed tonight just staring are 915 00:48:05,630 --> 00:48:03,359 you gonna look at me and go oh 916 00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:05,640 and go back to sleep no you're gonna be 917 00:48:08,089 --> 00:48:06,720 like Schrader what the hell are you 918 00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:08,099 doing in my room get out of here right 919 00:48:14,690 --> 00:48:12,240 right I just stare and I stand silently 920 00:48:16,130 --> 00:48:14,700 that's even more terrifying but with the 921 00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:16,140 shadowy figures it doesn't seem to 922 00:48:20,030 --> 00:48:17,760 affect that and I do give a lot more 923 00:48:23,569 --> 00:48:20,040 credit to who we are as a species in our 924 00:48:25,130 --> 00:48:23,579 fight or flight factor that if we are 925 00:48:27,530 --> 00:48:25,140 sensing something truly evil I don't 926 00:48:29,329 --> 00:48:27,540 think we just blank it out uh I know 927 00:48:31,490 --> 00:48:29,339 that that does happen disassociation 928 00:48:33,950 --> 00:48:31,500 happens when we reach moments of high 929 00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:33,960 crisis but I tend to believe that it's 930 00:48:37,309 --> 00:48:36,240 more along the lines of Guardians and a 931 00:48:38,990 --> 00:48:37,319 lot of people have told me you know 932 00:48:41,890 --> 00:48:39,000 after you brought that up I've I've not 933 00:48:45,230 --> 00:48:41,900 felt that fear again and it's been 934 00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:45,240 alleviated okay good so we've got that 935 00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:47,040 taken care of 936 00:48:50,510 --> 00:48:48,720 um then there is the faction that is 937 00:48:53,210 --> 00:48:50,520 like no I had a terrifying experience 938 00:48:56,329 --> 00:48:53,220 yeah that's not working for me right now 939 00:48:58,910 --> 00:48:56,339 I'm right I don't feel any calmer right 940 00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:58,920 well now here's the other aspect of it 941 00:49:04,370 --> 00:49:01,440 you you witnessed something 942 00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:04,380 you you see this dark figure you have to 943 00:49:07,970 --> 00:49:06,240 question different aspects at what point 944 00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:07,980 did you see it 945 00:49:11,630 --> 00:49:10,079 um were you asleep when it made its 946 00:49:13,730 --> 00:49:11,640 presence known did you wake up were you 947 00:49:15,470 --> 00:49:13,740 in the hypnagogic OR hypnopic States 948 00:49:18,109 --> 00:49:15,480 those moments of going in and coming out 949 00:49:19,250 --> 00:49:18,119 of sleep where sleep paralysis is known 950 00:49:21,410 --> 00:49:19,260 to happen 951 00:49:22,849 --> 00:49:21,420 because right now in our Dream Dave and 952 00:49:28,210 --> 00:49:22,859 Jimmy are sitting across from each other 953 00:49:32,809 --> 00:49:30,349 and all of a sudden the cat knocks over 954 00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:32,819 my lamp in my room and I wake up quickly 955 00:49:36,829 --> 00:49:35,040 and for a brief moment Jimmy and I are 956 00:49:38,750 --> 00:49:36,839 still sitting in that Cafe and slowly my 957 00:49:41,150 --> 00:49:38,760 room turns into my room and Jimmy turns 958 00:49:43,010 --> 00:49:41,160 into a black black dark hulking figure 959 00:49:45,230 --> 00:49:43,020 that then crawls up my wall and out of 960 00:49:48,530 --> 00:49:45,240 my room because every horror movie 961 00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:48,540 machination just played out in my brain 962 00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:50,880 what was real about that 963 00:49:55,010 --> 00:49:52,800 probably none of it especially if it's 964 00:49:56,750 --> 00:49:55,020 over within 20 to 30 seconds it's the 965 00:49:58,970 --> 00:49:56,760 brain regaining Consciousness and 966 00:50:00,530 --> 00:49:58,980 awareness but the brain cannot tell the 967 00:50:02,809 --> 00:50:00,540 difference between a real and a vividly 968 00:50:04,130 --> 00:50:02,819 imaginative experience that's why it's 969 00:50:06,849 --> 00:50:04,140 so subjective for these kind of 970 00:50:11,390 --> 00:50:06,859 experiences to take place 971 00:50:16,550 --> 00:50:11,400 so okay but here's here's the thing for 972 00:50:18,530 --> 00:50:16,560 for me is I was uh in in watching this 973 00:50:21,849 --> 00:50:18,540 documentary and this is how you get 974 00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:21,859 yourself worked up it wasn't the stories 975 00:50:25,309 --> 00:50:24,000 it wasn't a little bit you know you're 976 00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:25,319 here and every you know when I was a kid 977 00:50:28,670 --> 00:50:27,300 I was five and my mom and there was a 978 00:50:31,849 --> 00:50:28,680 shadow figure in the right you know okay 979 00:50:34,730 --> 00:50:31,859 you hear these over and over again the 980 00:50:36,589 --> 00:50:34,740 drawings that they were showing of what 981 00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:36,599 people had described right and those are 982 00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:39,359 flashing up on the screen and it's that 983 00:50:43,730 --> 00:50:41,280 and that picture is here and then 984 00:50:46,069 --> 00:50:43,740 suddenly now I'm I'm like working myself 985 00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:46,079 up like I don't want to see that that 986 00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:48,960 would kind of freak me out and then you 987 00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:51,359 know I I glance over 988 00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:54,240 into uh my bathroom I don't have a 989 00:50:59,450 --> 00:50:57,119 bathroom door it's a it's a it's opening 990 00:51:02,150 --> 00:50:59,460 right there's no door on you know what I 991 00:51:04,010 --> 00:51:02,160 mean so but I looked through that you 992 00:51:05,450 --> 00:51:04,020 know what kind of weird Bohemian life do 993 00:51:07,309 --> 00:51:05,460 you lead Jimmy that there's no bathroom 994 00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:07,319 door 995 00:51:11,329 --> 00:51:08,720 yeah yeah 996 00:51:14,210 --> 00:51:11,339 good answer okay all right no bathroom 997 00:51:15,950 --> 00:51:14,220 Strokes yeah where the toilet is that's 998 00:51:20,030 --> 00:51:15,960 in a separate room that's got a door 999 00:51:23,930 --> 00:51:20,040 Dave the bathroom itself no it's just a 1000 00:51:26,990 --> 00:51:23,940 entry but it's dark in there right and I 1001 00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:27,000 worked myself up to the point where now 1002 00:51:33,230 --> 00:51:29,760 I'm challenging myself 1003 00:51:35,569 --> 00:51:33,240 to work it up the nerve to glance to my 1004 00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:35,579 left just in case what if there's you 1005 00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:39,359 know and dude I like I look halfway 1006 00:51:46,010 --> 00:51:42,480 expecting somebody you know you know in 1007 00:51:48,349 --> 00:51:46,020 in the bathroom right now suddenly I go 1008 00:51:51,549 --> 00:51:48,359 from Matt and I'm I'm doing this to 1009 00:51:55,130 --> 00:51:51,559 myself and now I'm like scared 1010 00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:55,140 she's like what's what's going on so I 1011 00:52:00,430 --> 00:51:57,359 had to turn off the documentary I I was 1012 00:52:03,230 --> 00:52:00,440 like enough is enough man I'm just like 1013 00:52:06,290 --> 00:52:03,240 she said she's like I can't watch this 1014 00:52:08,210 --> 00:52:06,300 anymore and I'm a grown ass man 1015 00:52:11,870 --> 00:52:08,220 right well that's that's the thing right 1016 00:52:16,190 --> 00:52:11,880 it gets into our head it gets into our 1017 00:52:18,770 --> 00:52:16,200 psyche so I tell people I don't go into 1018 00:52:21,290 --> 00:52:18,780 a situation in a place of fear 1019 00:52:23,390 --> 00:52:21,300 right I go to a lot of crazy places and 1020 00:52:25,849 --> 00:52:23,400 I've been to a lot of dark 1021 00:52:26,990 --> 00:52:25,859 Sinister locations with dark dark 1022 00:52:29,690 --> 00:52:27,000 history 1023 00:52:31,609 --> 00:52:29,700 but I don't give myself over to the fear 1024 00:52:33,530 --> 00:52:31,619 now maybe that's fooling myself maybe 1025 00:52:35,870 --> 00:52:33,540 it's setting the intention you will not 1026 00:52:38,510 --> 00:52:35,880 muck with me but I can tell you this 1027 00:52:41,870 --> 00:52:38,520 Jimmy you also have to consider 1028 00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:41,880 if human consciousness survives the 1029 00:52:46,490 --> 00:52:43,200 physical form 1030 00:52:47,870 --> 00:52:46,500 the personality may as well remain 1031 00:52:50,329 --> 00:52:47,880 intact 1032 00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:50,339 so I've said to my kids I'm going to 1033 00:52:54,430 --> 00:52:53,040 haunt you I will be around and I will be 1034 00:52:56,510 --> 00:52:54,440 at my granddaughter and 1035 00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:56,520 great-granddaughter's birthday parties 1036 00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:58,079 that first boy girl party when they 1037 00:53:01,370 --> 00:53:00,000 break out a Ouija board and they're 1038 00:53:02,930 --> 00:53:01,380 trying to get freaked out and cuddle up 1039 00:53:05,329 --> 00:53:02,940 a little closer to that person that they 1040 00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:05,339 like and when they say who's going to be 1041 00:53:07,970 --> 00:53:06,720 the first to die I'm going to be the one 1042 00:53:10,190 --> 00:53:07,980 pushing the planchette to their 1043 00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:10,200 boyfriend or girlfriend right because 1044 00:53:13,250 --> 00:53:12,000 I'm just a smart ass and I'm going to 1045 00:53:16,609 --> 00:53:13,260 want to have fun 1046 00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:16,619 with that so if I happen to be in the 1047 00:53:19,130 --> 00:53:18,000 church household and I know you just 1048 00:53:20,690 --> 00:53:19,140 watched the documentary and you're a 1049 00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:20,700 little freaked out I might be the guy to 1050 00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:22,800 jerk around with you yeah yeah yeah yeah 1051 00:53:27,230 --> 00:53:24,480 there's I think there's something to 1052 00:53:30,109 --> 00:53:27,240 that day actually I do yeah because who 1053 00:53:32,210 --> 00:53:30,119 are you gonna be more drawn to 1054 00:53:34,010 --> 00:53:32,220 as a spirit if I know this you know I'm 1055 00:53:36,530 --> 00:53:34,020 your house ghost I'm just here all the 1056 00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:36,540 time but Jimmy's amping himself up I can 1057 00:53:40,309 --> 00:53:38,640 see it I'm gonna have a little fun with 1058 00:53:42,589 --> 00:53:40,319 you today yeah yeah let's go let's go 1059 00:53:44,750 --> 00:53:42,599 let's go right and who why wouldn't you 1060 00:53:48,049 --> 00:53:44,760 right if if that part of 1061 00:53:49,790 --> 00:53:48,059 your personality exists why wouldn't it 1062 00:53:51,890 --> 00:53:49,800 still want to have fun why wouldn't it 1063 00:53:53,690 --> 00:53:51,900 be drawn into those situations what if 1064 00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:53,700 it's one of your relatives a close 1065 00:53:58,910 --> 00:53:57,359 friend something that that someone that 1066 00:54:01,010 --> 00:53:58,920 still cares about you and just would 1067 00:54:03,170 --> 00:54:01,020 love you know that this is their 1068 00:54:05,990 --> 00:54:03,180 personality so I I do take a lot of that 1069 00:54:07,970 --> 00:54:06,000 into into account and sometimes when I'm 1070 00:54:10,190 --> 00:54:07,980 in an investigation and something creepy 1071 00:54:11,690 --> 00:54:10,200 is happening and I'll say hey 1072 00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:11,700 you know if this is somebody messing 1073 00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:13,200 with me knock it off I'm trying to get 1074 00:54:15,890 --> 00:54:14,640 to the heart of this issue you could 1075 00:54:18,530 --> 00:54:15,900 either help me 1076 00:54:20,809 --> 00:54:18,540 you know or hinder me and hindering is 1077 00:54:22,970 --> 00:54:20,819 not going to do anybody us or the living 1078 00:54:25,069 --> 00:54:22,980 or dead any good so let's let's get to 1079 00:54:28,490 --> 00:54:25,079 it and a lot of times then I get the 1080 00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:28,500 spirit realm appears to help me appears 1081 00:54:32,089 --> 00:54:30,240 to make connection better I'm treating 1082 00:54:34,849 --> 00:54:32,099 it with respect I'm not screwing around 1083 00:54:37,130 --> 00:54:34,859 I'm going in focused with the intention 1084 00:54:39,829 --> 00:54:37,140 of helping spirits that are dealing with 1085 00:54:41,569 --> 00:54:39,839 issues and 1086 00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:41,579 um and then there are times when we're 1087 00:54:45,530 --> 00:54:43,680 joking around and we get spooked because 1088 00:54:47,870 --> 00:54:45,540 I think we're goofing around in the 1089 00:54:49,370 --> 00:54:47,880 spirits in that same realm of mindset 1090 00:54:52,190 --> 00:54:49,380 it's going to mess with us because we're 1091 00:54:56,270 --> 00:54:52,200 messing around and having fun 1092 00:55:00,049 --> 00:54:56,280 oh okay so then the next the next stage 1093 00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:00,059 of last night's Fright Fest sure um was 1094 00:55:05,569 --> 00:55:02,640 uh I decided you know I turned I turned 1095 00:55:09,230 --> 00:55:05,579 the documentary off and I grabbed Jay 1096 00:55:11,630 --> 00:55:09,240 Allen heineck's book uh UFO report you 1097 00:55:13,790 --> 00:55:11,640 know this thing on Project Blue Book and 1098 00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:13,800 uh so I I'm reading it I got the 1099 00:55:18,109 --> 00:55:15,839 physical book and I'm reading it 1100 00:55:20,930 --> 00:55:18,119 and I'm putting Shadow dude out of my 1101 00:55:23,150 --> 00:55:20,940 mind right hat dude and it's fine I'm 1102 00:55:25,069 --> 00:55:23,160 you know and I'm kind of uh now I'm 1103 00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:25,079 getting tired you know that's what you 1104 00:55:30,890 --> 00:55:28,079 do when you read and so I go and I get 1105 00:55:33,770 --> 00:55:30,900 the now I'm I'm cool now I'm all calm 1106 00:55:35,930 --> 00:55:33,780 everything's fine and I and I decide I'm 1107 00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:35,940 going to because I'm in this chapter of 1108 00:55:42,530 --> 00:55:39,119 the book uh where he's telling he's uh 1109 00:55:45,170 --> 00:55:42,540 UFO stories and uh so look for it on 1110 00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:45,180 Audible so I can pick up where I'm 1111 00:55:50,089 --> 00:55:48,000 reading now right and so I find it I 1112 00:55:53,089 --> 00:55:50,099 find it on Audible I queue it up chapter 1113 00:55:56,450 --> 00:55:53,099 five I hit play I turn the lights off I 1114 00:55:58,790 --> 00:55:56,460 put the book on the nightstand and and I 1115 00:56:01,390 --> 00:55:58,800 doze off I go to sleep listening to jail 1116 00:56:04,849 --> 00:56:01,400 and hi Nick talk about this 1117 00:56:06,530 --> 00:56:04,859 1947 UFO sighting at a trout farm in 1118 00:56:08,809 --> 00:56:06,540 Idaho I'm not making that up that's 1119 00:56:13,490 --> 00:56:08,819 literally that was listening 1120 00:56:16,670 --> 00:56:13,500 dude my dreams go to 1121 00:56:18,170 --> 00:56:16,680 this little gray aliens I don't know 1122 00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:18,180 what the what heinek is now talking 1123 00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:20,640 about I don't know how long I'm asleep 1124 00:56:26,329 --> 00:56:24,240 but I am having this crazy dream about 1125 00:56:28,490 --> 00:56:26,339 little gray aliens running around in my 1126 00:56:29,930 --> 00:56:28,500 bedroom in the dark like straight out of 1127 00:56:32,930 --> 00:56:29,940 communion right there's like some 1128 00:56:36,530 --> 00:56:32,940 Whitley strieber stuff and I wake up 1129 00:56:37,790 --> 00:56:36,540 dude in a cold sweat and I'm sting I'm 1130 00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:37,800 like what kind of what are you talking 1131 00:56:42,790 --> 00:56:40,079 about man I mean I was like freaked out 1132 00:56:46,849 --> 00:56:42,800 I'm looking around the room 1133 00:56:48,829 --> 00:56:46,859 why why am I why am i setting myself up 1134 00:56:51,770 --> 00:56:48,839 well it's an innocent book it's about 1135 00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:51,780 the it's about project blueberry sure 1136 00:56:55,309 --> 00:56:53,040 but listen 1137 00:56:57,410 --> 00:56:55,319 you were already a little unnerved by 1138 00:56:59,450 --> 00:56:57,420 the hatman you put on something to 1139 00:57:01,370 --> 00:56:59,460 distract your mind but it's still in 1140 00:57:03,290 --> 00:57:01,380 that same vein of high strangeness Jim 1141 00:57:05,690 --> 00:57:03,300 and you put yourself into sleep and 1142 00:57:07,790 --> 00:57:05,700 listen the reason that self-help books 1143 00:57:09,230 --> 00:57:07,800 and meditation tapes have helped when 1144 00:57:11,690 --> 00:57:09,240 you're falling asleep is because it's 1145 00:57:13,790 --> 00:57:11,700 tapping into that Primal subconscious 1146 00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:13,800 aspect of who you are so it's trying to 1147 00:57:21,170 --> 00:57:16,559 train the brain teach the brain so 1148 00:57:23,450 --> 00:57:21,180 that's why ogmandino and uh you know all 1149 00:57:25,970 --> 00:57:23,460 these Lou Holtz all of these impressive 1150 00:57:27,530 --> 00:57:25,980 speakers uh have come forward and said 1151 00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:27,540 don't don't fill your brain in the 1152 00:57:31,309 --> 00:57:29,040 morning or just before bed with garbage 1153 00:57:34,130 --> 00:57:31,319 because garbage in will ruminate and 1154 00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:34,140 create more Havoc use enlightening 1155 00:57:38,270 --> 00:57:36,720 things things to empower you and I'm not 1156 00:57:39,829 --> 00:57:38,280 saying that that this heinek book was 1157 00:57:42,530 --> 00:57:39,839 negative but when you're already in a 1158 00:57:44,150 --> 00:57:42,540 mentally fragile state because of being 1159 00:57:45,770 --> 00:57:44,160 a little unnerved by the situation and 1160 00:57:47,390 --> 00:57:45,780 then listen to this of course you're 1161 00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:47,400 absorbing all that into the subconscious 1162 00:57:52,370 --> 00:57:49,920 and you're hearing these cases and your 1163 00:57:53,809 --> 00:57:52,380 brain that's why like your alarm goes 1164 00:57:54,890 --> 00:57:53,819 off and you can hear the beeping in your 1165 00:57:56,329 --> 00:57:54,900 dream and you're like what the hell is 1166 00:57:58,430 --> 00:57:56,339 that noise and you're looking everywhere 1167 00:58:00,829 --> 00:57:58,440 trying to locate it and it's frustrating 1168 00:58:02,930 --> 00:58:00,839 because you can't find it it's that same 1169 00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,940 ear worm that's attacking you so yeah 1170 00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:04,559 obviously that might not be the best 1171 00:58:07,910 --> 00:58:06,480 thing maybe you wanna maybe you just 1172 00:58:10,910 --> 00:58:07,920 want to like go to sleep with some 1173 00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:10,920 gentle meditation rain in the background 1174 00:58:15,950 --> 00:58:12,960 to give you that calming thing you know 1175 00:58:18,049 --> 00:58:15,960 what I I did that uh we're gonna head to 1176 00:58:22,309 --> 00:58:18,059 a break right here I did that about 1177 00:58:24,530 --> 00:58:22,319 about six months ago I found it was like 1178 00:58:28,609 --> 00:58:24,540 eight hours of a thunderstorm right 1179 00:58:31,630 --> 00:58:28,619 something like that you know and dude 1180 00:58:35,089 --> 00:58:31,640 I hadn't slept that thick in a long time 1181 00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:35,099 oh man like that was that was for real 1182 00:58:42,530 --> 00:58:39,359 uh that that actually works boring but 1183 00:58:45,890 --> 00:58:42,540 yeah yeah it works I like I like I like 1184 00:58:48,829 --> 00:58:45,900 to listen to a physics on tape 1185 00:58:52,069 --> 00:58:48,839 yeah I fall asleep to that no osmosis 1186 00:58:55,010 --> 00:58:52,079 yeah yeah no no nightmares listening to 1187 00:58:57,410 --> 00:58:55,020 Brian Greene talk about String Theory so 1188 00:58:59,450 --> 00:58:57,420 let's uh let's take our break right here 1189 00:59:00,890 --> 00:58:59,460 this is Fade to Black our guest tonight 1190 00:59:03,289 --> 00:59:00,900 the one and only Dave Schrader we're 1191 00:59:07,309 --> 00:59:03,299 talking about our Spooky World my knight 1192 00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:07,319 didn't end there no it just got started 1193 00:59:11,390 --> 00:59:09,839 Dave it just got started tonight I'm 1194 00:59:15,049 --> 00:59:11,400 gonna have to watch The Breakfast Club 1195 00:59:17,210 --> 00:59:15,059 after the show again we'll be right back 1196 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:17,220 after this it says Fade to Black stay 1197 00:59:34,510 --> 00:59:18,130 with us 1198 00:59:39,190 --> 00:59:36,460 thank you 1199 00:59:42,349 --> 00:59:39,200 [Music] 1200 00:59:45,289 --> 00:59:42,359 this is faded black with Jimmy Church on 1201 00:59:46,609 --> 00:59:45,299 the game changer Radio Network 1202 00:59:49,549 --> 00:59:46,619 oh 1203 00:59:51,069 --> 00:59:49,559 you're one million gigawatt paranormal 1204 00:59:54,530 --> 00:59:51,079 Powerhouse 1205 00:59:57,410 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01:03:52,740 conscious life Expo and you are 1289 01:03:56,870 --> 01:03:54,480 listening to fade to black with Jimmy 1290 01:03:59,589 --> 01:03:56,880 Church who holds the lucky pony record 1291 01:04:02,410 --> 01:03:59,599 for the best astrological chart since 1292 01:04:04,730 --> 01:04:02,420 1963. true story 1293 01:04:06,289 --> 01:04:04,740 this is Micah Hanks of the gralian 1294 01:04:15,070 --> 01:04:06,299 report and you're listening to Jimmy 1295 01:04:30,410 --> 01:04:24,710 [Music] 1296 01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:30,420 Welcome Back Fade to block I'm your host 1297 01:04:35,510 --> 01:04:33,119 Jimmy church tonight Dave Trader it is 1298 01:04:39,170 --> 01:04:35,520 Schrader Knight 1299 01:04:41,690 --> 01:04:39,180 taking over taking over Fade to Black 1300 01:04:44,510 --> 01:04:41,700 I'm talking about our Spooky World and I 1301 01:04:47,390 --> 01:04:44,520 want to analyze and break down uh my my 1302 01:04:50,450 --> 01:04:47,400 Fright Fest uh that I went through last 1303 01:04:52,309 --> 01:04:50,460 night and and Dave I know that uh you've 1304 01:04:54,530 --> 01:04:52,319 got all of your haunted experiences and 1305 01:04:57,049 --> 01:04:54,540 I want you to share uh uh some of that 1306 01:05:00,849 --> 01:04:57,059 with us tonight but last night I was 1307 01:05:07,309 --> 01:05:03,950 t-r-r-o-5 macro yeah like like for real 1308 01:05:09,710 --> 01:05:07,319 straight into a literacy yeah I know 1309 01:05:11,030 --> 01:05:09,720 right but here's the thing here's the 1310 01:05:14,270 --> 01:05:11,040 thing 1311 01:05:16,370 --> 01:05:14,280 um I I thought about this today now I'm 1312 01:05:19,190 --> 01:05:16,380 gonna try to repeat the experiment a 1313 01:05:20,990 --> 01:05:19,200 little bit tonight okay I had something 1314 01:05:24,530 --> 01:05:21,000 that I don't normally do 1315 01:05:26,510 --> 01:05:24,540 I had a giant salad 1316 01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:26,520 before bed 1317 01:05:30,710 --> 01:05:28,559 normally 1318 01:05:34,010 --> 01:05:30,720 um I'm having a slice of pie I'm having 1319 01:05:38,329 --> 01:05:34,020 ice cream a bowl of cereal I had a salad 1320 01:05:40,309 --> 01:05:38,339 a big big I'm wondering 1321 01:05:43,490 --> 01:05:40,319 if that had something to do with it I 1322 01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:43,500 don't know but but eating beef you know 1323 01:05:50,750 --> 01:05:47,119 I I think affects the dream state but 1324 01:05:52,970 --> 01:05:50,760 here's the other thing well does food 1325 01:05:55,970 --> 01:05:52,980 affect the way you you dream 1326 01:05:59,089 --> 01:05:55,980 dude have you not seen uh A Christmas 1327 01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:59,099 Carol remember even Ebenezer Scrooge 1328 01:06:02,390 --> 01:06:00,960 thinks that his uh moment with Jacob 1329 01:06:04,910 --> 01:06:02,400 Marley was nothing more than a little 1330 01:06:07,490 --> 01:06:04,920 undigested bread uh yeah the concept 1331 01:06:10,970 --> 01:06:07,500 that our food affects us sure and and 1332 01:06:13,250 --> 01:06:10,980 people have had really weird dreams on 1333 01:06:15,109 --> 01:06:13,260 different kinds of foods so yeah I 1334 01:06:17,270 --> 01:06:15,119 believe that yeah all things that would 1335 01:06:18,609 --> 01:06:17,280 have affect you yeah a nice healthy 1336 01:06:26,630 --> 01:06:18,619 salad 1337 01:06:28,970 --> 01:06:26,640 exactly so okay so but here's here's the 1338 01:06:30,529 --> 01:06:28,980 other thing that got funky for me last 1339 01:06:32,750 --> 01:06:30,539 night and 1340 01:06:34,809 --> 01:06:32,760 um was 1341 01:06:39,170 --> 01:06:34,819 um the 1342 01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:39,180 in in my bedroom against the the wall 1343 01:06:44,450 --> 01:06:42,240 where my headboard is it's a tall 1344 01:06:47,510 --> 01:06:44,460 it's tall it's like 20 feet and then it 1345 01:06:49,910 --> 01:06:47,520 comes down at an angle like this it's a 1346 01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:49,920 freaking Echo chamber in there 1347 01:06:55,970 --> 01:06:54,000 and so my Bluetooth speaker right which 1348 01:06:59,450 --> 01:06:55,980 is playing Audible 1349 01:07:02,109 --> 01:06:59,460 if the if the timber of the voice is 1350 01:07:05,210 --> 01:07:02,119 just right right the pitch the timber 1351 01:07:08,089 --> 01:07:05,220 this it sounds like 1352 01:07:10,910 --> 01:07:08,099 an a double conversation 1353 01:07:12,170 --> 01:07:10,920 right and it's it's subtle it's in the 1354 01:07:13,970 --> 01:07:12,180 background because you can hear the 1355 01:07:15,410 --> 01:07:13,980 speaker you're hearing that direct but 1356 01:07:16,609 --> 01:07:15,420 you get this little thing off of the 1357 01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:16,619 background and it sounds like somebody's 1358 01:07:22,190 --> 01:07:18,720 talking down the hall you know it's like 1359 01:07:24,170 --> 01:07:22,200 this weird thing okay but I can deal 1360 01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:24,180 with that so that's firing off last 1361 01:07:27,490 --> 01:07:25,200 night 1362 01:07:31,549 --> 01:07:27,500 I get back to sleep 1363 01:07:33,829 --> 01:07:31,559 and uh uh I calm down there's no great 1364 01:07:37,490 --> 01:07:33,839 aliens running around in my room but 1365 01:07:40,789 --> 01:07:37,500 that freaking Echo voice now I'm hearing 1366 01:07:43,910 --> 01:07:40,799 it in my dream and it goes from being an 1367 01:07:46,750 --> 01:07:43,920 echo of the audible to like its own 1368 01:07:51,289 --> 01:07:46,760 conversation this is my dream 1369 01:07:54,890 --> 01:07:51,299 and and now I got Shadow hat dude the 1370 01:07:58,190 --> 01:07:54,900 the voice is talking to with the with 1371 01:08:02,390 --> 01:07:58,200 the gray and I got this three-way dude I 1372 01:08:05,930 --> 01:08:02,400 woke up out of my mind out of my mind 1373 01:08:08,890 --> 01:08:05,940 out of my mind and and and and here I am 1374 01:08:12,170 --> 01:08:08,900 a grown-up and I'm just trying to just 1375 01:08:15,109 --> 01:08:12,180 okay right I mean I was like what what 1376 01:08:18,709 --> 01:08:15,119 the hell okay so but here's my point 1377 01:08:20,930 --> 01:08:18,719 here's my point all right real quick I'm 1378 01:08:22,550 --> 01:08:20,940 going to start reading Dr Seuss books to 1379 01:08:25,610 --> 01:08:22,560 you and send you the audio to go to bed 1380 01:08:28,490 --> 01:08:25,620 with that'll be easier Cat in the Hat 1381 01:08:30,289 --> 01:08:28,500 um so so but when I woke up you know 1382 01:08:32,030 --> 01:08:30,299 that it wasn't sleep paralysis or 1383 01:08:33,370 --> 01:08:32,040 anything like that but that voice the 1384 01:08:35,689 --> 01:08:33,380 echo voice 1385 01:08:37,550 --> 01:08:35,699 that was doing a different conversation 1386 01:08:40,669 --> 01:08:37,560 I heard it 1387 01:08:43,490 --> 01:08:40,679 Dave I swear on all that I love it was a 1388 01:08:46,970 --> 01:08:43,500 another conversation and and and and and 1389 01:08:50,390 --> 01:08:46,980 and I convinced myself I'm like come on 1390 01:08:53,209 --> 01:08:50,400 man you're imagining this and then I I 1391 01:08:55,370 --> 01:08:53,219 turned it off I turned off audible I got 1392 01:08:59,090 --> 01:08:55,380 the room quiet and the second 1393 01:09:02,050 --> 01:08:59,100 conversation stopped and I was man I 1394 01:09:08,289 --> 01:09:02,060 haven't been that scared 1395 01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:12,169 and and again it was the uh like you 1396 01:09:19,669 --> 01:09:16,080 said the worm feeding right that that 1397 01:09:22,430 --> 01:09:19,679 Echo voice and and hearing it and I 1398 01:09:24,130 --> 01:09:22,440 heard the echo my brain just went with 1399 01:09:28,370 --> 01:09:24,140 it 1400 01:09:29,930 --> 01:09:28,380 sure Jimmy you talk about this most 1401 01:09:31,430 --> 01:09:29,940 nights of the week and even on your 1402 01:09:33,470 --> 01:09:31,440 nights off you're talking about it with 1403 01:09:35,209 --> 01:09:33,480 somebody how do you think this is not 1404 01:09:37,370 --> 01:09:35,219 going to affect you at some point it's 1405 01:09:40,430 --> 01:09:37,380 going to spill over into our dream world 1406 01:09:42,349 --> 01:09:40,440 because this is this is our life I've 1407 01:09:44,510 --> 01:09:42,359 had dreams right after I've had really 1408 01:09:47,150 --> 01:09:44,520 intense conversations and then I have to 1409 01:09:50,269 --> 01:09:47,160 like you filter through what's this is 1410 01:09:52,669 --> 01:09:50,279 real or did I just hallucinate this 1411 01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:52,679 because my brain was already saturated 1412 01:09:56,570 --> 01:09:54,000 on that 1413 01:09:58,729 --> 01:09:56,580 you know that's that's part of what we 1414 01:10:00,110 --> 01:09:58,739 do and why we have to be cautious with 1415 01:10:01,370 --> 01:10:00,120 what we do and what we put into our 1416 01:10:03,470 --> 01:10:01,380 heads 1417 01:10:04,610 --> 01:10:03,480 check this out Miss Marina just said she 1418 01:10:07,310 --> 01:10:04,620 says um 1419 01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:07,320 uh salad greens like fruit and veggies 1420 01:10:10,270 --> 01:10:08,880 are living foods and have their own 1421 01:10:13,250 --> 01:10:10,280 Consciousness 1422 01:10:14,750 --> 01:10:13,260 oh man I almost brought that up to you 1423 01:10:15,770 --> 01:10:14,760 but I was like I don't know if you're 1424 01:10:18,050 --> 01:10:15,780 ready to 1425 01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:18,060 to let that absorb and then you're going 1426 01:10:21,770 --> 01:10:19,679 to be hearing lettuce screaming in your 1427 01:10:26,930 --> 01:10:21,780 dreams tonight 1428 01:10:29,030 --> 01:10:26,940 as as we chew it right yeah so uh I'm 1429 01:10:31,370 --> 01:10:29,040 gonna do the salad again tonight and 1430 01:10:34,430 --> 01:10:31,380 just mess with it I'm being very serious 1431 01:10:36,649 --> 01:10:34,440 though about The Breakfast Club Parks 1432 01:10:39,770 --> 01:10:36,659 and Recreation I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm 1433 01:10:42,110 --> 01:10:39,780 gonna steer off of uh you know I'm not 1434 01:10:43,850 --> 01:10:42,120 gonna watch the second half of it then 1435 01:10:46,250 --> 01:10:43,860 you're changing you're changing the 1436 01:10:48,649 --> 01:10:46,260 parameters of the experiment then so how 1437 01:10:52,990 --> 01:10:48,659 can you eat the same food hoping to try 1438 01:11:00,530 --> 01:10:55,490 I ain't gonna do it man 1439 01:11:04,490 --> 01:11:00,540 you know what I may I I the let me just 1440 01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:04,500 let me I want you to absorb this the 1441 01:11:10,610 --> 01:11:07,440 echo the voice that was reading 1442 01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:10,620 heineck's book in audible is the perfect 1443 01:11:15,649 --> 01:11:13,440 pitch to go 1444 01:11:17,149 --> 01:11:15,659 up you don't hear it with every single 1445 01:11:19,010 --> 01:11:17,159 audible book you know it's different 1446 01:11:22,310 --> 01:11:19,020 voices different you know it's male 1447 01:11:29,450 --> 01:11:25,970 um it's it's that I'm telling you man 1448 01:11:32,209 --> 01:11:29,460 you hear it you hear this Echo I I I 1449 01:11:34,729 --> 01:11:32,219 don't know if I can do that I don't know 1450 01:11:37,310 --> 01:11:34,739 if if I can go through that again 1451 01:11:39,169 --> 01:11:37,320 right and don't see then what you might 1452 01:11:41,450 --> 01:11:39,179 be doing is creating a bit of the ghost 1453 01:11:42,830 --> 01:11:41,460 in the machine effect right you know 1454 01:11:44,270 --> 01:11:42,840 what the ghost of the machine is with 1455 01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:44,280 the fan that was blowing on his eyes 1456 01:11:47,689 --> 01:11:46,080 setting up the the moisture and he was 1457 01:11:49,910 --> 01:11:47,699 hallucinating he was having visual 1458 01:11:52,970 --> 01:11:49,920 hallucinations you were creating audible 1459 01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:52,980 hallucinations because it was in the 1460 01:11:57,530 --> 01:11:55,440 register and bouncing back and forth 1461 01:11:59,510 --> 01:11:57,540 creating audible hallucinations your 1462 01:12:01,850 --> 01:11:59,520 brain is trying to process what's being 1463 01:12:03,890 --> 01:12:01,860 said and done but it's being triggered 1464 01:12:05,090 --> 01:12:03,900 almost by multiple sensors at the same 1465 01:12:08,090 --> 01:12:05,100 time 1466 01:12:10,070 --> 01:12:08,100 and and why is it that 1467 01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:10,080 um and I'm I keep going back to this 1468 01:12:20,390 --> 01:12:13,760 where I've set myself up right it's like 1469 01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:20,400 uh I I caused all of this where now 1470 01:12:26,090 --> 01:12:23,760 um uh I want everybody to understand 1471 01:12:30,110 --> 01:12:26,100 what I'm trying to say 1472 01:12:32,330 --> 01:12:30,120 I have to fall asleep on my back 1473 01:12:35,090 --> 01:12:32,340 I can't do it on my side I don't want to 1474 01:12:38,110 --> 01:12:35,100 have to not be able to see behind me 1475 01:12:40,250 --> 01:12:38,120 right I don't want to have 1476 01:12:42,709 --> 01:12:40,260 sleeping on your back sets you up and 1477 01:12:45,350 --> 01:12:42,719 makes you more prone for sleep paralysis 1478 01:12:47,110 --> 01:12:45,360 well but at least I can see both sides 1479 01:12:50,750 --> 01:12:47,120 of the room 1480 01:12:54,169 --> 01:12:50,760 I'm telling you yeah sure setting myself 1481 01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:54,179 up right and this is this is like this 1482 01:12:59,630 --> 01:12:57,360 is how Edgar Allan Poe did it 1483 01:13:02,209 --> 01:12:59,640 right you know what I mean and you're 1484 01:13:06,770 --> 01:13:02,219 just right went insane yeah I agree yeah 1485 01:13:09,410 --> 01:13:06,780 yeah exactly exactly exactly exactly I 1486 01:13:11,149 --> 01:13:09,420 woke up this morning man and and looked 1487 01:13:14,090 --> 01:13:11,159 in the mirror and just went that that 1488 01:13:16,790 --> 01:13:14,100 was crazy I mean that was just an 1489 01:13:19,070 --> 01:13:16,800 all-night thing waking up terrified 1490 01:13:22,070 --> 01:13:19,080 going back to sleep going back into it 1491 01:13:23,390 --> 01:13:22,080 you know waking back up again freaking 1492 01:13:25,790 --> 01:13:23,400 out 1493 01:13:28,010 --> 01:13:25,800 um it was it was nuts it was it was a 1494 01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:28,020 crazy night it seriously was 1495 01:13:31,970 --> 01:13:29,280 sure 1496 01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:31,980 right and and I don't disbelieve that 1497 01:13:35,330 --> 01:13:33,600 and I don't disbelieve the fear that it 1498 01:13:38,209 --> 01:13:35,340 also struck in you but there are we know 1499 01:13:41,209 --> 01:13:38,219 that there are sounds that create the 1500 01:13:46,430 --> 01:13:41,219 fear element like they found that 1501 01:13:49,550 --> 01:13:46,440 um there are minor uh minor um notes you 1502 01:13:52,189 --> 01:13:49,560 can play that actually stir that effect 1503 01:13:53,689 --> 01:13:52,199 um there are these chords and I'm trying 1504 01:13:56,450 --> 01:13:53,699 for the life it's been a long time since 1505 01:13:58,910 --> 01:13:56,460 I've discussed it um there's this music 1506 01:14:01,010 --> 01:13:58,920 that the church banned because they 1507 01:14:03,110 --> 01:14:01,020 believe that it opened portals and it 1508 01:14:05,209 --> 01:14:03,120 opened negativity do you you know what 1509 01:14:07,850 --> 01:14:05,219 I'm talking about I do I do I do right 1510 01:14:10,090 --> 01:14:07,860 so those are minor chords played over I 1511 01:14:14,030 --> 01:14:10,100 believe major chord so it's called 1512 01:14:16,729 --> 01:14:14,040 right it's creating a resonance yeah 1513 01:14:19,250 --> 01:14:16,739 so you're probably doing that same thing 1514 01:14:20,689 --> 01:14:19,260 having that that effect 1515 01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:20,699 um it'd be interesting if you put in 1516 01:14:24,890 --> 01:14:22,560 direct earbuds and fell asleep would it 1517 01:14:27,709 --> 01:14:24,900 have the same impact on you tonight have 1518 01:14:32,030 --> 01:14:27,719 I I don't think so yeah you know here's 1519 01:14:33,229 --> 01:14:32,040 here's another thing I can't sleep in 1520 01:14:35,930 --> 01:14:33,239 silence 1521 01:14:37,610 --> 01:14:35,940 neither can I I've never been able to no 1522 01:14:39,410 --> 01:14:37,620 I gotta have a white white noise a fan 1523 01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:39,420 going because I've got to have more of 1524 01:14:45,649 --> 01:14:41,520 the sound of the ocean or something yeah 1525 01:14:47,630 --> 01:14:45,659 yeah yeah I cannot uh silence hey my 1526 01:14:49,370 --> 01:14:47,640 brain can I mention something yes I'm 1527 01:14:50,990 --> 01:14:49,380 sure you get this as much as I do doing 1528 01:14:54,229 --> 01:14:51,000 what we do you probably got a lot of 1529 01:14:57,530 --> 01:14:54,239 listeners to deal with a form of PTSD 1530 01:15:00,470 --> 01:14:57,540 there is my my dad my bio dad brought me 1531 01:15:03,229 --> 01:15:00,480 in on this about a year ago he said um 1532 01:15:05,450 --> 01:15:03,239 he suffers from PTSD he was in the 1533 01:15:08,510 --> 01:15:05,460 service in Vietnam and then he was a cop 1534 01:15:12,229 --> 01:15:08,520 a Philly cop for most of his life so 1535 01:15:15,770 --> 01:15:12,239 dealing with the uh the VA they told him 1536 01:15:18,110 --> 01:15:15,780 to listen to Diane Arkenstone 1537 01:15:20,330 --> 01:15:18,120 Diane Arkenstone so there are I suffer 1538 01:15:21,890 --> 01:15:20,340 from anxiety 1539 01:15:23,870 --> 01:15:21,900 um and and there are times when I get 1540 01:15:26,090 --> 01:15:23,880 the anxiety that I'll lay down and I I 1541 01:15:27,709 --> 01:15:26,100 call out to my 1542 01:15:29,930 --> 01:15:27,719 uh I don't want to say the word because 1543 01:15:32,209 --> 01:15:29,940 it'll fire everybody's off at home but I 1544 01:15:35,330 --> 01:15:32,219 call out to my little uh 1545 01:15:38,090 --> 01:15:35,340 musical speaker and I tell it play Diane 1546 01:15:41,510 --> 01:15:38,100 Arkenstone and it plays music by that 1547 01:15:43,250 --> 01:15:41,520 and it's rhythmic it's amazing and I 1548 01:15:45,050 --> 01:15:43,260 have recommended that to vets I've 1549 01:15:48,410 --> 01:15:45,060 recommended that to uh people that have 1550 01:15:50,750 --> 01:15:48,420 had issues and it really kind of brings 1551 01:15:52,370 --> 01:15:50,760 them down and and puts him into a calm 1552 01:15:54,169 --> 01:15:52,380 cool collected place so I'd recommend 1553 01:15:56,470 --> 01:15:54,179 that for your listeners 1554 01:16:00,410 --> 01:15:56,480 I've got it right here Diane Arkenstone 1555 01:16:05,149 --> 01:16:00,420 yeah multi-instrumentalist 1556 01:16:07,070 --> 01:16:05,159 yep and uh there we go okay interesting 1557 01:16:07,910 --> 01:16:07,080 um now 1558 01:16:09,590 --> 01:16:07,920 um 1559 01:16:11,229 --> 01:16:09,600 that's just a little help from your old 1560 01:16:14,030 --> 01:16:11,239 buddy Dave 1561 01:16:16,189 --> 01:16:14,040 I'll I'll check right you know what I do 1562 01:16:19,370 --> 01:16:16,199 listen to if I listen to music at night 1563 01:16:22,729 --> 01:16:19,380 I listen to uh uh I listen to Miles 1564 01:16:24,470 --> 01:16:22,739 Miles Davis sure yeah I go to miles 1565 01:16:25,090 --> 01:16:24,480 miles 1566 01:16:29,450 --> 01:16:25,100 um 1567 01:16:32,390 --> 01:16:29,460 in in doing the you know this this thing 1568 01:16:37,850 --> 01:16:32,400 that that I went through last night 1569 01:16:40,310 --> 01:16:37,860 um in in a weird way am I inviting am I 1570 01:16:42,550 --> 01:16:40,320 opening something up in my home 1571 01:16:45,890 --> 01:16:42,560 foreign 1572 01:16:47,810 --> 01:16:45,900 that's the conundrum people ask me if I 1573 01:16:50,390 --> 01:16:47,820 watch your paranormal show about 1574 01:16:52,250 --> 01:16:50,400 Darkness does that allow darkness in 1575 01:16:54,290 --> 01:16:52,260 right again that's where I talk about 1576 01:16:56,090 --> 01:16:54,300 manifestation and intention being an 1577 01:16:58,850 --> 01:16:56,100 important element of what we do and how 1578 01:17:01,430 --> 01:16:58,860 we do what we do 1579 01:17:02,990 --> 01:17:01,440 I don't go into a location in a state of 1580 01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:03,000 fear it doesn't mean I don't get brought 1581 01:17:07,130 --> 01:17:05,520 into a state of fear but my object is to 1582 01:17:08,990 --> 01:17:07,140 turn it around 1583 01:17:11,390 --> 01:17:09,000 Center and ground myself and then deal 1584 01:17:13,250 --> 01:17:11,400 with the situation at hand not let it 1585 01:17:15,590 --> 01:17:13,260 control me 1586 01:17:18,290 --> 01:17:15,600 so that's always an important aspect of 1587 01:17:21,410 --> 01:17:18,300 this I think again if you live in a 1588 01:17:24,110 --> 01:17:21,420 state of fear and your 1589 01:17:25,790 --> 01:17:24,120 in that anxiety and you're you're always 1590 01:17:27,649 --> 01:17:25,800 worried and concerned for it I do 1591 01:17:29,030 --> 01:17:27,659 believe in the laws of attraction a 1592 01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:29,040 hundred percent 1593 01:17:33,350 --> 01:17:31,440 that if you focus on things and you 1594 01:17:35,149 --> 01:17:33,360 focus on the negativity the negativity 1595 01:17:37,250 --> 01:17:35,159 is going to get you because you're 1596 01:17:38,510 --> 01:17:37,260 opening up for it right it's like the 1597 01:17:42,290 --> 01:17:38,520 old adage 1598 01:17:44,450 --> 01:17:42,300 what sunk the Titanic Jimmy 1599 01:17:47,450 --> 01:17:44,460 was it hitting the iceberg 1600 01:17:48,410 --> 01:17:47,460 no what sunk to Titanic was taking on 1601 01:17:50,930 --> 01:17:48,420 the water 1602 01:17:52,550 --> 01:17:50,940 so you're going to take hits and dings 1603 01:17:53,870 --> 01:17:52,560 throughout your life if you allow the 1604 01:17:55,130 --> 01:17:53,880 negativity and that's what's going to 1605 01:17:58,070 --> 01:17:55,140 bring you down 1606 01:18:00,229 --> 01:17:58,080 so in these instances if you find 1607 01:18:02,090 --> 01:18:00,239 yourself in that place find something 1608 01:18:04,250 --> 01:18:02,100 that brings your energy back up 1609 01:18:07,790 --> 01:18:04,260 breakfast club listening to the music of 1610 01:18:08,990 --> 01:18:07,800 the 80s whatever is your Jive maybe if 1611 01:18:11,630 --> 01:18:09,000 you're religious the prayer of Michael 1612 01:18:15,050 --> 01:18:11,640 the Archangel that's a very powerful 1613 01:18:16,490 --> 01:18:15,060 prayer listening to Diane Arkenstone to 1614 01:18:18,770 --> 01:18:16,500 get your brainwave pattern into 1615 01:18:21,470 --> 01:18:18,780 something Pachelbel is another great 1616 01:18:23,570 --> 01:18:21,480 Tool uh if you want to really adhere 1617 01:18:26,750 --> 01:18:23,580 something to your brain listen to Paco 1618 01:18:29,149 --> 01:18:26,760 Bell while you read oh it seems to I 1619 01:18:31,070 --> 01:18:29,159 thought you said Taco Bell no that'll 1620 01:18:32,510 --> 01:18:31,080 mess you up really bad all night in many 1621 01:18:35,149 --> 01:18:32,520 different ways and you are definitely 1622 01:18:38,270 --> 01:18:35,159 inviting evil in at that point 1623 01:18:40,310 --> 01:18:38,280 um but Paco Bell if you listen apocal 1624 01:18:42,290 --> 01:18:40,320 Bell and while you're reading it helps 1625 01:18:44,570 --> 01:18:42,300 you to retain more of what you read it's 1626 01:18:46,430 --> 01:18:44,580 the the meter and Rhythm Of The Music so 1627 01:18:48,050 --> 01:18:46,440 change your Rhythm change your 1628 01:18:50,390 --> 01:18:48,060 vibrational tone and that sounds all 1629 01:18:52,250 --> 01:18:50,400 tree-huggery and weird but it works 1630 01:18:54,169 --> 01:18:52,260 don't live in that state of fear don't 1631 01:18:56,930 --> 01:18:54,179 give command over to it 1632 01:18:58,430 --> 01:18:56,940 there's a reason we whistle when we walk 1633 01:19:01,850 --> 01:18:58,440 through the cemetery 1634 01:19:04,490 --> 01:19:01,860 right it's to get our brain out of that 1635 01:19:07,430 --> 01:19:04,500 thought process out of the scary place 1636 01:19:09,890 --> 01:19:07,440 music resonates and vibrates and lifts 1637 01:19:13,130 --> 01:19:09,900 us so there's many different elements to 1638 01:19:15,530 --> 01:19:13,140 that magic that we create naturally 1639 01:19:17,930 --> 01:19:15,540 so don't allow yourself to focus on 1640 01:19:20,030 --> 01:19:17,940 those things and 1641 01:19:22,070 --> 01:19:20,040 is a perfect example and I'll get very 1642 01:19:25,250 --> 01:19:22,080 metaphysical and woo with you listen 1643 01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:25,260 I was a little kid in my parents Garage 1644 01:19:29,570 --> 01:19:27,840 on a little Kmart tape recorder doing 1645 01:19:33,050 --> 01:19:29,580 radio shows 1646 01:19:36,410 --> 01:19:33,060 I knew this was my life it took me till 1647 01:19:39,229 --> 01:19:36,420 I was almost 40 before I got to that 1648 01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:39,239 point in my life but I got there because 1649 01:19:45,950 --> 01:19:42,719 it was always with me I always saw it 1650 01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:45,960 and opportunities legitimately opened up 1651 01:19:50,689 --> 01:19:47,760 for me I was not 1652 01:19:53,570 --> 01:19:50,699 physically seeking but I found it every 1653 01:19:54,890 --> 01:19:53,580 time so I firmly believe that that what 1654 01:19:57,050 --> 01:19:54,900 you focus on that which you give 1655 01:19:59,149 --> 01:19:57,060 attention to that which you give energy 1656 01:20:01,310 --> 01:19:59,159 to you feed 1657 01:20:03,110 --> 01:20:01,320 and if you feed fear fear is going to 1658 01:20:06,830 --> 01:20:03,120 rule your life 1659 01:20:09,709 --> 01:20:06,840 100 yeah and and so 1660 01:20:13,850 --> 01:20:09,719 um so can you invite it in sure yeah can 1661 01:20:16,430 --> 01:20:13,860 you feed it sure okay so here's here's 1662 01:20:18,890 --> 01:20:16,440 the trippy thing for me where I'm I'm 1663 01:20:20,570 --> 01:20:18,900 constantly like last night trying to 1664 01:20:23,149 --> 01:20:20,580 Center myself going come on churches 1665 01:20:26,149 --> 01:20:23,159 just in your head right okay uh you know 1666 01:20:29,209 --> 01:20:26,159 to calm yourself but when when I popped 1667 01:20:30,950 --> 01:20:29,219 out of uh the dream state and I heard 1668 01:20:33,590 --> 01:20:30,960 this other conversation going on that 1669 01:20:35,450 --> 01:20:33,600 was being caused by Audible 1670 01:20:37,669 --> 01:20:35,460 um and I and I come out of that and I 1671 01:20:40,850 --> 01:20:37,679 turn off as soon as I turn the audible 1672 01:20:43,610 --> 01:20:40,860 off Dave I swear this is manifesting 1673 01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:43,620 because my house from the outside it 1674 01:20:55,790 --> 01:20:52,850 right it is like what's going it's like 1675 01:20:58,370 --> 01:20:55,800 I manifested that too 1676 01:21:00,830 --> 01:20:58,380 you know and or or once you remove the 1677 01:21:02,149 --> 01:21:00,840 audible effect those were the natural 1678 01:21:03,890 --> 01:21:02,159 sounds of your house that you always 1679 01:21:05,930 --> 01:21:03,900 hear but you're so used to yes yes 1680 01:21:08,270 --> 01:21:05,940 that's what I'm saying that's exactly 1681 01:21:11,510 --> 01:21:08,280 what I'm saying it's exactly what I'm 1682 01:21:13,610 --> 01:21:11,520 saying it's it's just you know and just 1683 01:21:15,830 --> 01:21:13,620 feeding on itself and feeding on itself 1684 01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:15,840 and you know coincidence and and 1685 01:21:20,990 --> 01:21:17,600 weirdness whatever 1686 01:21:25,010 --> 01:21:21,000 uh it was it was it was a gnarly night 1687 01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:25,020 again kind of fun though 1688 01:21:31,610 --> 01:21:28,320 you know we enjoy 1689 01:21:34,970 --> 01:21:31,620 that's very cool I you know that fear 1690 01:21:37,010 --> 01:21:34,980 element is part of what what moves us we 1691 01:21:38,930 --> 01:21:37,020 love that aspect 1692 01:21:41,870 --> 01:21:38,940 um it's what pushes people to go to 1693 01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:41,880 horror movies and on thrill rides and 1694 01:21:46,729 --> 01:21:44,159 just having an exciting aspect of that 1695 01:21:48,229 --> 01:21:46,739 life we'd love to be frightened 1696 01:21:54,649 --> 01:21:48,239 in 1697 01:21:58,130 --> 01:21:54,659 there was a scene 1698 01:21:59,870 --> 01:21:58,140 um where you guys heard a voice like you 1699 01:22:02,570 --> 01:21:59,880 know disembodied voice in the room and 1700 01:22:05,689 --> 01:22:02,580 you guys all reacted at the same time 1701 01:22:07,790 --> 01:22:05,699 um when when that goes down you know 1702 01:22:09,050 --> 01:22:07,800 you're doing an investigation and you 1703 01:22:11,450 --> 01:22:09,060 know you do your thing with the sheriff 1704 01:22:14,209 --> 01:22:11,460 okay we're gonna go we're gonna go check 1705 01:22:15,950 --> 01:22:14,219 it out first and then you know okay 1706 01:22:17,050 --> 01:22:15,960 um what do you call that you're gonna do 1707 01:22:19,490 --> 01:22:17,060 your 1708 01:22:21,830 --> 01:22:19,500 Baseline investigation so we're going to 1709 01:22:25,070 --> 01:22:21,840 go do our Baseline investigation 1710 01:22:28,490 --> 01:22:25,080 um and when you hear a voice like that 1711 01:22:30,709 --> 01:22:28,500 um is it is it the location or 1712 01:22:32,810 --> 01:22:30,719 or is it something that you're you're 1713 01:22:36,410 --> 01:22:32,820 bringing out 1714 01:22:40,669 --> 01:22:38,689 I don't I can't tell Cindy is the medium 1715 01:22:42,410 --> 01:22:40,679 that's where we use her I can't tell if 1716 01:22:44,810 --> 01:22:42,420 it's my own spirits that are helping me 1717 01:22:46,070 --> 01:22:44,820 connect right and translating I don't 1718 01:22:48,110 --> 01:22:46,080 know what it is 1719 01:22:50,270 --> 01:22:48,120 one may feed the other it's the chicken 1720 01:22:53,270 --> 01:22:50,280 in the egg scenario right what what 1721 01:22:55,310 --> 01:22:53,280 causes this I don't know well okay so 1722 01:22:58,189 --> 01:22:55,320 let's let's move this around just a 1723 01:23:00,430 --> 01:22:58,199 little bit sure let's say you're doing 1724 01:23:03,709 --> 01:23:00,440 your Baseline outside 1725 01:23:06,410 --> 01:23:03,719 and the sheriff is in the room 1726 01:23:08,990 --> 01:23:06,420 does the sheriff hear the same voice if 1727 01:23:11,510 --> 01:23:09,000 you're outside or is it because you guys 1728 01:23:14,630 --> 01:23:11,520 are in the room 1729 01:23:17,209 --> 01:23:14,640 when we were there uh in at the haddock 1730 01:23:18,830 --> 01:23:17,219 house uh help us I think is that the 1731 01:23:20,330 --> 01:23:18,840 name of the episode help us I I can't 1732 01:23:22,010 --> 01:23:20,340 remember the name of the episode but it 1733 01:23:23,450 --> 01:23:22,020 was one of the final episodes of ghosts 1734 01:23:25,310 --> 01:23:23,460 of Devil's perch 1735 01:23:28,250 --> 01:23:25,320 and we heard 1736 01:23:30,410 --> 01:23:28,260 um this little boy tell us his story 1737 01:23:31,790 --> 01:23:30,420 and he talked about this negativity and 1738 01:23:34,850 --> 01:23:31,800 the sheriff is standing there and this 1739 01:23:36,590 --> 01:23:34,860 guy's a stoic man and he's listening and 1740 01:23:38,689 --> 01:23:36,600 you can see he's kind of like oh God 1741 01:23:41,270 --> 01:23:38,699 this kid's crazy or you know they're too 1742 01:23:43,490 --> 01:23:41,280 too wild in imagination so once he gets 1743 01:23:45,350 --> 01:23:43,500 down I go okay is there someplace he can 1744 01:23:46,910 --> 01:23:45,360 go so we can talk as adults with his 1745 01:23:50,030 --> 01:23:46,920 parents yeah yeah honey go to your room 1746 01:23:52,490 --> 01:23:50,040 here watch your tablet so as he goes 1747 01:23:54,290 --> 01:23:52,500 into his room and we're standing in the 1748 01:23:56,330 --> 01:23:54,300 hall I can see his bedroom door all of a 1749 01:23:59,930 --> 01:23:56,340 sudden the light starts flickering 1750 01:24:02,390 --> 01:23:59,940 and going off and he goes he's here 1751 01:24:03,169 --> 01:24:02,400 and the the sheriff is standing right 1752 01:24:04,910 --> 01:24:03,179 there 1753 01:24:07,550 --> 01:24:04,920 we've just watched the video of the 1754 01:24:11,630 --> 01:24:07,560 front door open on itself and close 1755 01:24:14,810 --> 01:24:11,640 and we're hearing this out loud 1756 01:24:17,270 --> 01:24:14,820 we're hearing this kid responding to 1757 01:24:19,550 --> 01:24:17,280 something and the lights are going on 1758 01:24:21,470 --> 01:24:19,560 and off in his room so I walk around and 1759 01:24:23,870 --> 01:24:21,480 the sheriff looks at me and goes 1760 01:24:25,370 --> 01:24:23,880 that's your call not mine so I go 1761 01:24:26,630 --> 01:24:25,380 walking around and I look in there and 1762 01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:26,640 I'm thinking is this kid messing with 1763 01:24:31,010 --> 01:24:28,080 the light switch and I walked in and 1764 01:24:33,110 --> 01:24:31,020 he's just sitting there on his phone 1765 01:24:36,050 --> 01:24:33,120 and he's looking up 1766 01:24:37,910 --> 01:24:36,060 and looking up and the lights are going 1767 01:24:40,070 --> 01:24:37,920 and he's so used to it because it's so 1768 01:24:41,330 --> 01:24:40,080 weird but it didn't happen until he went 1769 01:24:42,950 --> 01:24:41,340 into that room 1770 01:24:45,830 --> 01:24:42,960 so sometimes there is what we call a 1771 01:24:49,370 --> 01:24:45,840 poltergeist agent that's the person that 1772 01:24:51,470 --> 01:24:49,380 you go in and deal with that has the the 1773 01:24:54,470 --> 01:24:51,480 activity centered around and usually 1774 01:24:56,750 --> 01:24:54,480 it's a pre-teen boy or girl and in this 1775 01:25:00,350 --> 01:24:56,760 case that's what we're dealing with so I 1776 01:25:02,630 --> 01:25:00,360 in my uh in my uh walk-in closet the 1777 01:25:04,550 --> 01:25:02,640 light has been flickering uh for the 1778 01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:04,560 last year 1779 01:25:11,149 --> 01:25:07,920 um um and and so not all the time but 1780 01:25:13,430 --> 01:25:11,159 but it flickers right and so finally 1781 01:25:16,490 --> 01:25:13,440 it's like two weeks ago I get my little 1782 01:25:18,290 --> 01:25:16,500 step ladder I'm gonna get up there take 1783 01:25:21,169 --> 01:25:18,300 the cover off and tighten up the light 1784 01:25:23,450 --> 01:25:21,179 bulb right I get my schematic going 1785 01:25:26,930 --> 01:25:23,460 there and so then I unscrew the thing I 1786 01:25:31,669 --> 01:25:26,940 think freaking light bulb is tight 1787 01:25:33,830 --> 01:25:31,679 I was like oh man I don't need this man 1788 01:25:36,169 --> 01:25:33,840 I don't need this it was tight I was 1789 01:25:39,050 --> 01:25:36,179 expecting it to be loose and wobbly and 1790 01:25:41,510 --> 01:25:39,060 and I was gonna fit no no it's tight and 1791 01:25:43,070 --> 01:25:41,520 that thing flickers when it wants to I I 1792 01:25:44,390 --> 01:25:43,080 still haven't figured that one out I'm 1793 01:25:46,189 --> 01:25:44,400 right well 1794 01:25:48,290 --> 01:25:46,199 you know that could be wiring in the 1795 01:25:51,169 --> 01:25:48,300 walls that's something outside of the 1796 01:25:52,910 --> 01:25:51,179 realm of just the socket itself 1797 01:25:54,530 --> 01:25:52,920 um could be mice that have chewed on it 1798 01:25:57,350 --> 01:25:54,540 a squirrel that got in there a raccoon 1799 01:25:59,870 --> 01:25:57,360 couldn't be moisture uh it could be a 1800 01:26:02,090 --> 01:25:59,880 demon yep 1801 01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:02,100 check this out check this out this is 1802 01:26:06,530 --> 01:26:04,560 from Hungary for Mars 1803 01:26:09,590 --> 01:26:06,540 um uh he says Dave what do you think 1804 01:26:12,050 --> 01:26:09,600 about being able to take control of the 1805 01:26:15,470 --> 01:26:12,060 dream specifically if I don't like the 1806 01:26:17,930 --> 01:26:15,480 first run of a scene I can play it back 1807 01:26:20,510 --> 01:26:17,940 but change details so they are more 1808 01:26:22,850 --> 01:26:20,520 favorable or interesting great question 1809 01:26:24,770 --> 01:26:22,860 Lucid yeah lucid dreaming I firmly 1810 01:26:26,689 --> 01:26:24,780 believe in lucid dreaming I've been able 1811 01:26:30,470 --> 01:26:26,699 to do that myself once I start to 1812 01:26:32,209 --> 01:26:30,480 realize I'm in that dream realm I will 1813 01:26:34,010 --> 01:26:32,219 have more fun with the dream to control 1814 01:26:35,990 --> 01:26:34,020 it sometimes you cling to it a little 1815 01:26:37,850 --> 01:26:36,000 bit more because hey I'm flying in the 1816 01:26:40,370 --> 01:26:37,860 Stream and it seems like the more 1817 01:26:42,770 --> 01:26:40,380 conscious I become of that the lower I 1818 01:26:45,649 --> 01:26:42,780 can fly and I can't I can't get that 1819 01:26:47,510 --> 01:26:45,659 same altitude that I was prior to the 1820 01:26:50,030 --> 01:26:47,520 acknowledgment that this is not normal 1821 01:26:51,169 --> 01:26:50,040 right um but yeah I've done that and 1822 01:26:53,030 --> 01:26:51,179 I've set the parameters and there's 1823 01:26:55,490 --> 01:26:53,040 times you just dig your heels in again 1824 01:26:56,990 --> 01:26:55,500 it's setting intention setting and if 1825 01:26:59,689 --> 01:26:57,000 you do that in your life set the 1826 01:27:01,550 --> 01:26:59,699 intention no this moment is not going to 1827 01:27:05,689 --> 01:27:01,560 break me this moment is not going to 1828 01:27:08,450 --> 01:27:05,699 make me bend it hit it's over I choose 1829 01:27:10,910 --> 01:27:08,460 what the next page is in this story and 1830 01:27:13,310 --> 01:27:10,920 in this choose a chapter book I choose 1831 01:27:16,310 --> 01:27:13,320 to step over the body 1832 01:27:18,830 --> 01:27:16,320 and keep moving forward I'll miss what I 1833 01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:18,840 lost I'll miss and and my heart will 1834 01:27:22,490 --> 01:27:20,880 bleed a little bit for that but I still 1835 01:27:25,129 --> 01:27:22,500 have a story to be told I can't drop 1836 01:27:26,930 --> 01:27:25,139 right here so I think a dream realm once 1837 01:27:29,689 --> 01:27:26,940 you start working the manifestation in 1838 01:27:32,030 --> 01:27:29,699 an intention element in your Waking Life 1839 01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:32,040 I think you can begin to 1840 01:27:36,290 --> 01:27:34,080 yield really interesting aspects in the 1841 01:27:39,050 --> 01:27:36,300 dream world as well do you do you pick 1842 01:27:41,149 --> 01:27:39,060 your dreams do you have specific do you 1843 01:27:43,550 --> 01:27:41,159 do you have I wish I do right I mean 1844 01:27:46,490 --> 01:27:43,560 it'd be Kate Beckinsale dressed like she 1845 01:27:48,410 --> 01:27:46,500 was in uh you know uh Van Helsing and I 1846 01:27:51,229 --> 01:27:48,420 just hanging around all the time if that 1847 01:27:56,870 --> 01:27:51,239 if I could pick my own dreams but uh no 1848 01:28:00,709 --> 01:27:58,250 she's watching The Breakfast Club 1849 01:28:02,930 --> 01:28:00,719 because uh I gotta tell you that Kate 1850 01:28:05,810 --> 01:28:02,940 Beckinsale and Van Helsing I'm I'm kind 1851 01:28:08,689 --> 01:28:05,820 of with you hey hey she's into Van 1852 01:28:10,570 --> 01:28:08,699 Wilder guy you know uh Ryan Reynolds so 1853 01:28:13,910 --> 01:28:10,580 you know we're all allowed our our 1854 01:28:16,189 --> 01:28:13,920 idiosyncrasies right so uh but you know 1855 01:28:18,350 --> 01:28:16,199 stuff you don't have a best of where you 1856 01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:18,360 go I'm gonna you know but I have had 1857 01:28:23,270 --> 01:28:21,600 sequel dreams where I know I'm in a 1858 01:28:25,310 --> 01:28:23,280 dream and it's picking up on a dream I 1859 01:28:26,450 --> 01:28:25,320 had two three four years ago I know it 1860 01:28:27,189 --> 01:28:26,460 because I want to enter the dream I'm 1861 01:28:30,110 --> 01:28:27,199 like 1862 01:28:32,629 --> 01:28:30,120 oh I'm picking back up where I left off 1863 01:28:34,490 --> 01:28:32,639 so it's weird and then I continue on 1864 01:28:36,709 --> 01:28:34,500 with that dream so I've had that I've 1865 01:28:38,570 --> 01:28:36,719 had repeat dreams reruns where I'm 1866 01:28:40,910 --> 01:28:38,580 having a dream and I'm I sudden become 1867 01:28:42,590 --> 01:28:40,920 aware I've had this dream before so what 1868 01:28:44,450 --> 01:28:42,600 I try to do is start focusing in the 1869 01:28:47,090 --> 01:28:44,460 dream without too much it's like those 1870 01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:47,100 those Magic Eye pictures if you focus 1871 01:28:50,270 --> 01:28:48,719 too much on it you can't see the image 1872 01:28:52,010 --> 01:28:50,280 but as soon as you kind of relax your 1873 01:28:54,350 --> 01:28:52,020 gaze and let your eyes fade into it 1874 01:28:59,410 --> 01:28:54,360 suddenly you see the the Statue of 1875 01:29:05,649 --> 01:29:02,209 the the other part 1876 01:29:07,750 --> 01:29:05,659 um when you say uh Lucid you know 1877 01:29:10,430 --> 01:29:07,760 delicious 1878 01:29:13,729 --> 01:29:10,440 there's a few different definitions out 1879 01:29:16,490 --> 01:29:13,739 there but do you feel that you you are 1880 01:29:19,610 --> 01:29:16,500 in control if you choose to be 1881 01:29:22,790 --> 01:29:19,620 uh sometimes sometimes I'm I'm uh I'm at 1882 01:29:24,350 --> 01:29:22,800 the whim of my dream and you don't you 1883 01:29:25,970 --> 01:29:24,360 know I don't always know I'm in a Dream 1884 01:29:27,350 --> 01:29:25,980 It's when I become conscious of the 1885 01:29:30,649 --> 01:29:27,360 dream 1886 01:29:33,229 --> 01:29:30,659 that you know that's what I'm aware oh 1887 01:29:35,149 --> 01:29:33,239 this is going on if I'm not like I said 1888 01:29:37,189 --> 01:29:35,159 the brain cannot tell between a real and 1889 01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:37,199 a vividly imaginative experience that's 1890 01:29:43,610 --> 01:29:41,760 why your brain sends out that uh uh not 1891 01:29:46,550 --> 01:29:43,620 anesthetic I can never think of the damn 1892 01:29:48,649 --> 01:29:46,560 word uh anesthesia basically to keep 1893 01:29:50,930 --> 01:29:48,659 your body from moving 1894 01:29:52,850 --> 01:29:50,940 um so that when you're dreaming about 1895 01:29:55,010 --> 01:29:52,860 having a fight with Rocky Balboa you're 1896 01:29:56,990 --> 01:29:55,020 not punching your spouse because the 1897 01:29:58,610 --> 01:29:57,000 brain can't tell that the physical and 1898 01:30:00,890 --> 01:29:58,620 the the dream state are two different 1899 01:30:02,870 --> 01:30:00,900 things so the body has to accommodate 1900 01:30:03,470 --> 01:30:02,880 for that so 1901 01:30:06,830 --> 01:30:03,480 um 1902 01:30:08,870 --> 01:30:06,840 I don't I I I wish I could and maybe if 1903 01:30:10,430 --> 01:30:08,880 I gave it more time 1904 01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:10,440 um but I've never really focused on 1905 01:30:13,729 --> 01:30:11,760 trying to have lucid dreams because I 1906 01:30:16,550 --> 01:30:13,739 don't I listen I try to control 1907 01:30:18,290 --> 01:30:16,560 everything in my waking moments I want 1908 01:30:22,370 --> 01:30:18,300 let my dream world take me where it 1909 01:30:24,410 --> 01:30:22,380 wants to go wow I'm the opposite and but 1910 01:30:27,830 --> 01:30:24,420 last night I couldn't get away from what 1911 01:30:31,310 --> 01:30:27,840 was going on last night I I tried and 1912 01:30:32,750 --> 01:30:31,320 that that ran uh how about those 1913 01:30:34,070 --> 01:30:32,760 nightmares have you ever had those where 1914 01:30:35,510 --> 01:30:34,080 you wake up and you're like oh God I'm 1915 01:30:36,709 --> 01:30:35,520 out of it and then you go back to sleep 1916 01:30:39,649 --> 01:30:36,719 and you're right back in the Nightmare 1917 01:30:42,709 --> 01:30:39,659 and you're like no no I was out of here 1918 01:30:45,110 --> 01:30:42,719 how did I get back in I did I did that I 1919 01:30:48,890 --> 01:30:45,120 did that three times last night three 1920 01:30:50,270 --> 01:30:48,900 times I used to well I still can if I if 1921 01:30:53,270 --> 01:30:50,280 I choose to 1922 01:30:56,149 --> 01:30:53,280 um I've got two three maybe four dreams 1923 01:30:59,689 --> 01:30:56,159 that I can go straight into 1924 01:31:03,709 --> 01:30:59,699 but absolutely absolutely I mean I have 1925 01:31:07,610 --> 01:31:03,719 a uh one specific dream it involves a 1926 01:31:11,110 --> 01:31:07,620 Mustang a two plus two Fastback 1966 1927 01:31:15,410 --> 01:31:11,120 Mustang that's uh sitting outside 1928 01:31:19,930 --> 01:31:15,420 I walk out of the door get into the 1929 01:31:22,430 --> 01:31:19,940 Mustang and drive across the country 1930 01:31:24,470 --> 01:31:22,440 and listening to Berlin's Every Breath 1931 01:31:27,050 --> 01:31:24,480 You Take on a song right 1932 01:31:28,790 --> 01:31:27,060 how did you know that I know things 1933 01:31:30,169 --> 01:31:28,800 about it you just think you're in 1934 01:31:31,910 --> 01:31:30,179 control of that dream I'm the one 1935 01:31:34,189 --> 01:31:31,920 bringing it to you how did you know that 1936 01:31:35,629 --> 01:31:34,199 let's take our break right here I guess 1937 01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:35,639 that's one and only Dave Schrader we're 1938 01:31:39,890 --> 01:31:38,400 talking about our Spooky World we're 1939 01:31:41,990 --> 01:31:39,900 going to continue our we're leaving off 1940 01:31:44,450 --> 01:31:42,000 right now I am your host Jimmy Turks 1941 01:31:46,650 --> 01:31:44,460 this is Fade to Black stay with us we'll 1942 01:31:49,070 --> 01:31:46,660 be right back after this short break 1943 01:32:09,010 --> 01:31:49,080 [Music] 1944 01:32:11,650 --> 01:32:09,020 way out here we listened to Jimmy Church 1945 01:32:14,270 --> 01:32:11,660 you're listening to Fade to Black 1946 01:32:16,669 --> 01:32:14,280 [Applause] 1947 01:32:21,530 --> 01:32:16,679 you're listening to jebby church and 1948 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anomalies which includes a feature 2047 01:36:43,310 --> 01:36:40,380 article written by our managing editor 2048 01:36:45,669 --> 01:36:43,320 Lee Spiegel just go to annexnetwork.com 2049 01:36:47,750 --> 01:36:45,679 forward slash membership ships that's 2050 01:36:50,570 --> 01:36:47,760 annexnetwork.com forward slash 2051 01:36:55,129 --> 01:36:50,580 memberships and get your free e-copy of 2052 01:37:00,630 --> 01:36:57,530 you are listening to fade to black with 2053 01:37:08,510 --> 01:37:00,640 Jimmy Church on the game changer Network 2054 01:37:15,350 --> 01:37:11,810 will not be televised the revolution is 2055 01:37:45,410 --> 01:37:16,680 foreign 2056 01:37:48,540 --> 01:37:45,420 [Music] 2057 01:37:48,550 --> 01:37:54,200 [Applause] 2058 01:37:58,430 --> 01:37:56,110 [Music] 2059 01:38:01,070 --> 01:37:58,440 welcome back faded black I'm your host 2060 01:38:03,350 --> 01:38:01,080 Timmy church tonight it's host to host 2061 01:38:06,649 --> 01:38:03,360 I said it Dave 2062 01:38:09,770 --> 01:38:06,659 I said it I'll say it again too you know 2063 01:38:12,890 --> 01:38:09,780 um one of the things uh I'm gonna get 2064 01:38:13,850 --> 01:38:12,900 back to uh our Spooky World but one of 2065 01:38:16,070 --> 01:38:13,860 the things 2066 01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:16,080 um that I really enjoy 2067 01:38:21,229 --> 01:38:18,239 um about uh you know our friendship and 2068 01:38:25,250 --> 01:38:21,239 and and doing shows together 2069 01:38:28,430 --> 01:38:25,260 um is your level dude you are one of the 2070 01:38:30,350 --> 01:38:28,440 best personalities and hosts put that 2071 01:38:33,910 --> 01:38:30,360 thing down I swear to God Dave I'll jump 2072 01:38:36,590 --> 01:38:33,920 through this camera right now 2073 01:38:39,950 --> 01:38:36,600 you being all koi with you yeah yeah 2074 01:38:42,890 --> 01:38:39,960 you're one of the best man uh you you 2075 01:38:44,750 --> 01:38:42,900 just have a great personality and you're 2076 01:38:46,790 --> 01:38:44,760 one of the best hosts and researchers 2077 01:38:50,270 --> 01:38:46,800 but you care and you care about the 2078 01:38:52,010 --> 01:38:50,280 audience and and the way that you and I 2079 01:38:54,350 --> 01:38:52,020 are able to communicate man it just 2080 01:38:56,570 --> 01:38:54,360 makes man it just makes life so much fun 2081 01:38:58,729 --> 01:38:56,580 and I just I I just want to say that and 2082 01:39:01,669 --> 01:38:58,739 get that out of the way now that's it 2083 01:39:05,270 --> 01:39:01,679 that's it no response go sip on your 2084 01:39:06,129 --> 01:39:05,280 freaking green tea soda thing 2085 01:39:08,990 --> 01:39:06,139 um 2086 01:39:11,209 --> 01:39:09,000 which is this Dave 2087 01:39:13,790 --> 01:39:11,219 gotta keep the throat moist man this 2088 01:39:15,770 --> 01:39:13,800 cough's killing me what's scariest 2089 01:39:18,410 --> 01:39:15,780 what's the most scared you have ever 2090 01:39:20,510 --> 01:39:18,420 been what happened 2091 01:39:21,950 --> 01:39:20,520 uh paranormal wise 2092 01:39:24,770 --> 01:39:21,960 um 2093 01:39:26,149 --> 01:39:24,780 well I'll tell you what uh 2094 01:39:27,649 --> 01:39:26,159 can I tell you kind of a different 2095 01:39:31,189 --> 01:39:27,659 variation 2096 01:39:33,350 --> 01:39:31,199 I want to know when you had the bejesus 2097 01:39:35,510 --> 01:39:33,360 scared out of you all right well hold 2098 01:39:37,790 --> 01:39:35,520 tight this is gonna this is gonna start 2099 01:39:41,390 --> 01:39:37,800 one way and go another okay okay all 2100 01:39:42,890 --> 01:39:41,400 right so my daughter was diagnosed uh uh 2101 01:39:44,149 --> 01:39:42,900 four years four or five years ago with 2102 01:39:46,310 --> 01:39:44,159 diabetes 2103 01:39:48,050 --> 01:39:46,320 um just out of the blue boom all of a 2104 01:39:49,070 --> 01:39:48,060 sudden she was diabetic and she was you 2105 01:39:49,970 --> 01:39:49,080 know her blood sugar was through the 2106 01:39:51,410 --> 01:39:49,980 roof we got her into the hospital 2107 01:39:53,390 --> 01:39:51,420 everything was fine 2108 01:39:56,570 --> 01:39:53,400 about a year later 2109 01:39:58,729 --> 01:39:56,580 things went horribly bad one day uh and 2110 01:40:01,129 --> 01:39:58,739 uh we almost lost her 2111 01:40:03,290 --> 01:40:01,139 I've had a lifelong 2112 01:40:07,010 --> 01:40:03,300 terrifying fear of death 2113 01:40:09,110 --> 01:40:07,020 complete fear of death my whole life and 2114 01:40:10,129 --> 01:40:09,120 losing my 2115 01:40:13,610 --> 01:40:10,139 um 2116 01:40:15,470 --> 01:40:13,620 losing my grandfather my grandmother my 2117 01:40:17,030 --> 01:40:15,480 mom you know tonight's the sixth 2118 01:40:20,330 --> 01:40:17,040 anniversary of the loss of my mom it's 2119 01:40:23,330 --> 01:40:20,340 just something tough to get over so 2120 01:40:24,290 --> 01:40:23,340 I sat there on the precipice of losing 2121 01:40:27,470 --> 01:40:24,300 my daughter 2122 01:40:29,510 --> 01:40:27,480 and suddenly and there was this calmness 2123 01:40:31,550 --> 01:40:29,520 that washed over me and I thought 2124 01:40:33,050 --> 01:40:31,560 well if she goes tonight I'm gonna go 2125 01:40:35,149 --> 01:40:33,060 with her because I'm not going to let 2126 01:40:38,770 --> 01:40:35,159 her go alone 2127 01:40:41,390 --> 01:40:38,780 and that's a few days later that 2128 01:40:44,810 --> 01:40:41,400 resonated with me as the scariest moment 2129 01:40:46,370 --> 01:40:44,820 because there was something spiritual I 2130 01:40:48,770 --> 01:40:46,380 don't know how else to explain it 2131 01:40:51,350 --> 01:40:48,780 something 2132 01:40:52,310 --> 01:40:51,360 totally and utterly removed my fear of 2133 01:40:54,169 --> 01:40:52,320 death 2134 01:40:59,750 --> 01:40:54,179 and 2135 01:41:01,490 --> 01:40:59,760 concept of oh no she's not she's not 2136 01:41:04,010 --> 01:41:01,500 going to go she needs her dad she you 2137 01:41:06,169 --> 01:41:04,020 know if if she goes I go and it was like 2138 01:41:07,970 --> 01:41:06,179 no it was like oh yeah I'll pick you up 2139 01:41:10,310 --> 01:41:07,980 after school that kind of decision there 2140 01:41:12,830 --> 01:41:10,320 was no thought to it there was no 2141 01:41:14,510 --> 01:41:12,840 effort so that obviously because I'm a 2142 01:41:17,030 --> 01:41:14,520 dad and I love my children very much so 2143 01:41:18,830 --> 01:41:17,040 that shouldn't be a big surprise but 2144 01:41:21,169 --> 01:41:18,840 coming from a guy who's terrified of 2145 01:41:23,390 --> 01:41:21,179 death that was something really bizarre 2146 01:41:26,270 --> 01:41:23,400 to me and it it left kind of a 2147 01:41:27,709 --> 01:41:26,280 an imprint on me a fearful imprint 2148 01:41:29,570 --> 01:41:27,719 because it was like boy that was too 2149 01:41:31,669 --> 01:41:29,580 easy that that was a switch I didn't 2150 01:41:32,570 --> 01:41:31,679 ever see coming 2151 01:41:34,250 --> 01:41:32,580 um 2152 01:41:37,550 --> 01:41:34,260 I don't know if it was something 2153 01:41:42,890 --> 01:41:40,729 or just disassociative that my brain's 2154 01:41:44,629 --> 01:41:42,900 like nope I'm not going to be here I 2155 01:41:46,490 --> 01:41:44,639 can't tell you what it was but there was 2156 01:41:49,490 --> 01:41:46,500 definitely 2157 01:41:52,310 --> 01:41:49,500 a shift in who I am did you 2158 01:41:54,590 --> 01:41:52,320 paradoxically right do you feel that 2159 01:41:57,950 --> 01:41:54,600 maybe subconsciously you answered a 2160 01:41:59,990 --> 01:41:57,960 question that had been you know sitting 2161 01:42:03,470 --> 01:42:00,000 there for a long time and maybe you just 2162 01:42:05,390 --> 01:42:03,480 got the relief of of having that cancer 2163 01:42:07,970 --> 01:42:05,400 in a subliminal way 2164 01:42:09,709 --> 01:42:07,980 maybe maybe it did thankfully I didn't 2165 01:42:12,050 --> 01:42:09,719 have to to deal with that my daughter 2166 01:42:13,850 --> 01:42:12,060 rebounded I was touch and go all night 2167 01:42:15,109 --> 01:42:13,860 long and the doctor said and if we do 2168 01:42:17,270 --> 01:42:15,119 get her back 2169 01:42:19,910 --> 01:42:17,280 I don't know if there will be permanent 2170 01:42:22,370 --> 01:42:19,920 brain damage or not and uh 2171 01:42:24,169 --> 01:42:22,380 you know she made it through with flying 2172 01:42:25,790 --> 01:42:24,179 colors prayers from around the world 2173 01:42:28,370 --> 01:42:25,800 came pouring in because I went to social 2174 01:42:29,870 --> 01:42:28,380 media I'm a big believer in prayer and 2175 01:42:32,750 --> 01:42:29,880 healing requests and I've been doing 2176 01:42:34,370 --> 01:42:32,760 that for 17 years with our shows and my 2177 01:42:36,350 --> 01:42:34,380 social media I figure if I've got a 2178 01:42:37,970 --> 01:42:36,360 format and a forum so do that I will do 2179 01:42:39,470 --> 01:42:37,980 what I can to help people 2180 01:42:41,570 --> 01:42:39,480 and they've come through for me on 2181 01:42:44,330 --> 01:42:41,580 numerous occasions so 2182 01:42:46,750 --> 01:42:44,340 that was really uh that was really 2183 01:42:50,810 --> 01:42:46,760 powerful in in many different ways 2184 01:42:53,930 --> 01:42:50,820 frightened I would say I um 2185 01:42:55,910 --> 01:42:53,940 I hate that I keep going back to it but 2186 01:42:57,729 --> 01:42:55,920 it was shocking there are two two 2187 01:43:00,410 --> 01:42:57,739 different moments one when I was a kid 2188 01:43:02,830 --> 01:43:00,420 it was near Halloween I was going to my 2189 01:43:06,169 --> 01:43:02,840 buddy's house it was 2190 01:43:08,689 --> 01:43:06,179 1977-ish so I was about 10 11 years old 2191 01:43:10,370 --> 01:43:08,699 I'm walking to my friend's house and as 2192 01:43:12,050 --> 01:43:10,380 I'm walking by 2193 01:43:14,570 --> 01:43:12,060 I look over and there's a ranch style 2194 01:43:16,550 --> 01:43:14,580 house this is before we have 20 billion 2195 01:43:18,709 --> 01:43:16,560 TV channels and a thousand satellite 2196 01:43:20,570 --> 01:43:18,719 radio shows we have three TV channels to 2197 01:43:21,770 --> 01:43:20,580 watch if you're lucky and people look 2198 01:43:23,930 --> 01:43:21,780 out their windows at their neighbors 2199 01:43:27,109 --> 01:43:23,940 mowing the lawn raking and I go walking 2200 01:43:28,310 --> 01:43:27,119 by and I see inside the house there's a 2201 01:43:30,290 --> 01:43:28,320 man just standing there with his arms 2202 01:43:31,550 --> 01:43:30,300 behind his back looking out through the 2203 01:43:32,950 --> 01:43:31,560 window 2204 01:43:35,510 --> 01:43:32,960 nothing 2205 01:43:37,250 --> 01:43:35,520 interminately frightening of that 2206 01:43:39,830 --> 01:43:37,260 I take a few more steps and I just 2207 01:43:41,209 --> 01:43:39,840 glance back and now he's outside so 2208 01:43:43,129 --> 01:43:41,219 somehow he's like 2209 01:43:46,310 --> 01:43:43,139 transported through his plate glass 2210 01:43:49,550 --> 01:43:46,320 window over his sidewalk over a row of 2211 01:43:51,950 --> 01:43:49,560 Hedges and now he's standing shut up in 2212 01:43:53,810 --> 01:43:51,960 the yard and I what and then I remember 2213 01:43:55,669 --> 01:43:53,820 turning and I thought oh I must have 2214 01:43:57,169 --> 01:43:55,679 just not paid attention and he was 2215 01:43:59,030 --> 01:43:57,179 always there because your brain's always 2216 01:44:01,010 --> 01:43:59,040 trying to rationalize yeah that's right 2217 01:44:03,229 --> 01:44:01,020 so I do one more quick glance and now 2218 01:44:05,570 --> 01:44:03,239 he's maybe 10 feet away from me still 2219 01:44:07,070 --> 01:44:05,580 standing in the yard looking at me 2220 01:44:09,590 --> 01:44:07,080 and 2221 01:44:11,870 --> 01:44:09,600 my brain starts to catch up this is not 2222 01:44:14,390 --> 01:44:11,880 normal and I start to pick up pace and 2223 01:44:15,890 --> 01:44:14,400 my final turn around and Jim he's two 2224 01:44:17,810 --> 01:44:15,900 feet away from me not huffing not 2225 01:44:21,050 --> 01:44:17,820 puffing not running not walking nothing 2226 01:44:23,149 --> 01:44:21,060 he's just there now 2227 01:44:25,010 --> 01:44:23,159 there's nothing innately terrifying 2228 01:44:27,649 --> 01:44:25,020 about this because it's not like he was 2229 01:44:29,810 --> 01:44:27,659 drooling or like the kid from The Grudge 2230 01:44:32,390 --> 01:44:29,820 movies where he's all janky walking at 2231 01:44:34,310 --> 01:44:32,400 me and I didn't even see him move but it 2232 01:44:38,090 --> 01:44:34,320 was so disarming 2233 01:44:41,390 --> 01:44:38,100 that I will be 55 next Tuesday 2234 01:44:43,910 --> 01:44:41,400 when I go visit my dad I drive around 2235 01:44:47,090 --> 01:44:43,920 the long way to not pass that out still 2236 01:44:48,709 --> 01:44:47,100 to this day now the the end of the story 2237 01:44:50,209 --> 01:44:48,719 was 2238 01:44:51,590 --> 01:44:50,219 a couple weeks later I finally broke 2239 01:44:53,270 --> 01:44:51,600 down and told my buddy about it because 2240 01:44:54,770 --> 01:44:53,280 we're I didn't want to pass the house 2241 01:44:56,990 --> 01:44:54,780 and I was taking the long ways like why 2242 01:44:59,209 --> 01:44:57,000 are we going this way and I told him and 2243 01:45:00,890 --> 01:44:59,219 he goes dude their dad had a heart 2244 01:45:02,149 --> 01:45:00,900 attack on Christmas Eve their Christmas 2245 01:45:04,430 --> 01:45:02,159 tree was right in that picture were 2246 01:45:05,810 --> 01:45:04,440 known he died right there I'm like get 2247 01:45:07,490 --> 01:45:05,820 out of here he goes no you know he's 2248 01:45:09,770 --> 01:45:07,500 like yeah and we walked over to our 2249 01:45:11,450 --> 01:45:09,780 friend Dan zigars and he goes Dan 2250 01:45:13,609 --> 01:45:11,460 tell them what happened at the Monroe's 2251 01:45:15,649 --> 01:45:13,619 house at Christmas and he goes oh their 2252 01:45:17,030 --> 01:45:15,659 dad Dying by the Christmas tree he 2253 01:45:18,350 --> 01:45:17,040 didn't hear my story 2254 01:45:19,550 --> 01:45:18,360 and he goes where's the Christmas tree 2255 01:45:21,649 --> 01:45:19,560 goes right in their picture window he 2256 01:45:26,390 --> 01:45:21,659 had a heart attack at Christmas and died 2257 01:45:27,050 --> 01:45:26,400 I'm like holy Christmas that's crazy 2258 01:45:28,669 --> 01:45:27,060 um 2259 01:45:30,950 --> 01:45:28,679 and I saw this guy there was nothing 2260 01:45:32,990 --> 01:45:30,960 like I said nothing 2261 01:45:35,149 --> 01:45:33,000 frightening but it was off-putting 2262 01:45:37,550 --> 01:45:35,159 because it didn't fit 2263 01:45:39,530 --> 01:45:37,560 and I couldn't my brain could not make 2264 01:45:41,930 --> 01:45:39,540 sense of what I was seeing so that was 2265 01:45:43,189 --> 01:45:41,940 one thing that still impacts me to this 2266 01:45:45,350 --> 01:45:43,199 day and again it's not like he was 2267 01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:45,360 snarling or growling or glowing red eyes 2268 01:45:50,810 --> 01:45:47,760 just unnerved me and then the other one 2269 01:45:52,250 --> 01:45:50,820 was when I I shot an episode of 2270 01:45:53,689 --> 01:45:52,260 um ghosted wait wait wait wait wait 2271 01:45:56,530 --> 01:45:53,699 we'll come back to that we'll come back 2272 01:45:59,629 --> 01:45:56,540 to that sure did you ever see him again 2273 01:46:01,609 --> 01:45:59,639 nope no I avoided it like the plague my 2274 01:46:03,290 --> 01:46:01,619 dad thought it was funny here was the 2275 01:46:05,450 --> 01:46:03,300 one time we drove 2276 01:46:07,189 --> 01:46:05,460 as adults my dad drives down the street 2277 01:46:09,470 --> 01:46:07,199 and then pulls into the guy's driveway 2278 01:46:11,330 --> 01:46:09,480 and I'm like come on old man well they 2279 01:46:12,770 --> 01:46:11,340 are out there pulling the siding off the 2280 01:46:15,169 --> 01:46:12,780 house because they're refurbishing it 2281 01:46:17,689 --> 01:46:15,179 right as we're there and they peel the 2282 01:46:19,790 --> 01:46:17,699 siding off of the house underneath the 2283 01:46:21,169 --> 01:46:19,800 siding and I have a photograph of this 2284 01:46:23,510 --> 01:46:21,179 I've got to go through my phone and find 2285 01:46:27,770 --> 01:46:23,520 it there is a 2286 01:46:29,930 --> 01:46:27,780 creepy gargoyle on the side of the wall 2287 01:46:31,010 --> 01:46:29,940 underneath the siding wall that they 2288 01:46:33,770 --> 01:46:31,020 just took down 2289 01:46:35,750 --> 01:46:33,780 and my dad goes what the hell is that 2290 01:46:37,669 --> 01:46:35,760 and I'm like shut up and he goes no 2291 01:46:40,430 --> 01:46:37,679 seriously and we looked up and there's 2292 01:46:43,550 --> 01:46:40,440 this gollumy looking creature with a 2293 01:46:46,430 --> 01:46:43,560 long tail adhered to the wall looking 2294 01:46:48,890 --> 01:46:46,440 back towards us and it wasn't a creature 2295 01:46:50,330 --> 01:46:48,900 it was a like a 2296 01:46:53,270 --> 01:46:50,340 a plaque I don't know what you call it 2297 01:46:55,850 --> 01:46:53,280 it was it was yeah it was a sculpture of 2298 01:46:58,310 --> 01:46:55,860 something but it was on the wall under 2299 01:47:00,830 --> 01:46:58,320 under the siding siding that's weird 2300 01:47:02,030 --> 01:47:00,840 this is weird so I just avoid it like 2301 01:47:03,470 --> 01:47:02,040 the plague it's better for me I'm just 2302 01:47:05,209 --> 01:47:03,480 like you know what that's that one 2303 01:47:07,129 --> 01:47:05,219 little nugget that's the creepy closet 2304 01:47:09,229 --> 01:47:07,139 for other kids I never had the creepy 2305 01:47:11,750 --> 01:47:09,239 closet I never had the thing that 2306 01:47:14,090 --> 01:47:11,760 terrified me like that so that was my 2307 01:47:17,090 --> 01:47:14,100 moment yeah I like your dad by the way 2308 01:47:19,430 --> 01:47:17,100 your dad's cool oh yeah he says over the 2309 01:47:21,890 --> 01:47:19,440 driveway okay so you were taping Ghost 2310 01:47:24,830 --> 01:47:21,900 Adventures I think you said yeah and I 2311 01:47:27,050 --> 01:47:24,840 think I want to say it's season two and 2312 01:47:28,550 --> 01:47:27,060 I'd become friends with the guys and and 2313 01:47:31,070 --> 01:47:28,560 I was telling them I'm like you guys 2314 01:47:34,189 --> 01:47:31,080 really should do an episode at Rolling 2315 01:47:36,109 --> 01:47:34,199 Hills Asylum up in in New York and he's 2316 01:47:37,850 --> 01:47:36,119 like really does it really live up to 2317 01:47:38,990 --> 01:47:37,860 him I'm like guys I've been here three 2318 01:47:41,149 --> 01:47:39,000 times 2319 01:47:43,609 --> 01:47:41,159 I've seen things I cannot wrap my head 2320 01:47:46,010 --> 01:47:43,619 around I've seen we're down in the the 2321 01:47:48,590 --> 01:47:46,020 bottom level down that one Hall I'm 2322 01:47:52,189 --> 01:47:48,600 watching shadow people walk in and out 2323 01:47:53,870 --> 01:47:52,199 of doors with a large group of people so 2324 01:47:55,550 --> 01:47:53,880 this must be one hell of a mass 2325 01:47:57,830 --> 01:47:55,560 hallucination as we all stood there 2326 01:48:00,530 --> 01:47:57,840 watching and our heads pivoting the same 2327 01:48:04,189 --> 01:48:00,540 way as we're watching this go on hearing 2328 01:48:05,810 --> 01:48:04,199 voices crazy good EVP 2329 01:48:07,430 --> 01:48:05,820 so they go okay 2330 01:48:09,590 --> 01:48:07,440 we want you to come be a guest 2331 01:48:12,709 --> 01:48:09,600 investigator on this episode with us I'm 2332 01:48:15,470 --> 01:48:12,719 like yeah let's do this so they bring me 2333 01:48:17,149 --> 01:48:15,480 out and they lived up to their deal dude 2334 01:48:19,609 --> 01:48:17,159 it was they had their production team 2335 01:48:22,250 --> 01:48:19,619 they bring in all their stuff for them 2336 01:48:24,950 --> 01:48:22,260 when the lockdown comes Sharon Coyle 2337 01:48:26,390 --> 01:48:24,960 goes out there locks the door all the 2338 01:48:28,430 --> 01:48:26,400 production getting their vehicles and 2339 01:48:30,530 --> 01:48:28,440 they leave 2340 01:48:34,129 --> 01:48:30,540 and I'm out there 2341 01:48:37,129 --> 01:48:34,139 by myself in a van in Pitch Black no 2342 01:48:38,590 --> 01:48:37,139 lights and I can sit there and I'm 2343 01:48:41,149 --> 01:48:38,600 watching 2344 01:48:41,930 --> 01:48:41,159 headlamps and flashlights Bob around and 2345 01:48:44,870 --> 01:48:41,940 there's they're doing their 2346 01:48:46,070 --> 01:48:44,880 investigation and then at one point 2347 01:48:48,530 --> 01:48:46,080 okay 2348 01:48:51,109 --> 01:48:48,540 call bring Sharon back we want to bring 2349 01:48:55,310 --> 01:48:53,030 so 2350 01:48:57,290 --> 01:48:55,320 they bring me in they're super excited 2351 01:48:59,750 --> 01:48:57,300 Super peppy and pumped up now mind you 2352 01:49:02,750 --> 01:48:59,760 this is like there's got to be like 2008 2353 01:49:05,209 --> 01:49:02,760 2009 all really young really psyched 2354 01:49:06,530 --> 01:49:05,219 dude you're not gonna I'm gonna we saw 2355 01:49:08,390 --> 01:49:06,540 this we saw that we heard this we did 2356 01:49:10,430 --> 01:49:08,400 and I'm like I've been here 2357 01:49:13,070 --> 01:49:10,440 and I'm praying to God because this is 2358 01:49:15,050 --> 01:49:13,080 my first real exposure to a paranormal 2359 01:49:16,910 --> 01:49:15,060 show like this I had done one episode of 2360 01:49:19,430 --> 01:49:16,920 Paranormal State but it was a UFO 2361 01:49:21,830 --> 01:49:19,440 episode it wasn't a ghost I'm praying 2362 01:49:23,810 --> 01:49:21,840 don't be a don't don't be fakes please 2363 01:49:25,970 --> 01:49:23,820 don't be fakes that should break my 2364 01:49:26,990 --> 01:49:25,980 heart of course and they're so excited 2365 01:49:29,450 --> 01:49:27,000 and they're like let's start upstairs 2366 01:49:31,609 --> 01:49:29,460 okay so we go marching upstairs we get 2367 01:49:34,129 --> 01:49:31,619 upstairs and everybody's getting run and 2368 01:49:36,590 --> 01:49:34,139 Zach is standing in front of me 2369 01:49:39,050 --> 01:49:36,600 Nick is to my left and he's got his 2370 01:49:40,850 --> 01:49:39,060 camera slung up on his shoulder Aaron's 2371 01:49:43,250 --> 01:49:40,860 off to my right and he's standing there 2372 01:49:44,510 --> 01:49:43,260 with his camera and we're talking and 2373 01:49:46,070 --> 01:49:44,520 they're telling me all the things that 2374 01:49:47,870 --> 01:49:46,080 they've been hearing and and as they're 2375 01:49:49,790 --> 01:49:47,880 saying it all of a sudden above us on 2376 01:49:52,149 --> 01:49:49,800 the next floor you hear somebody running 2377 01:49:55,129 --> 01:49:52,159 full out 2378 01:49:57,290 --> 01:49:55,139 and I look up and I go Who the hell's 2379 01:49:58,370 --> 01:49:57,300 upstairs in Zach's jaw slacks and he 2380 01:49:59,930 --> 01:49:58,380 goes 2381 01:50:03,109 --> 01:49:59,940 it's the roof 2382 01:50:05,810 --> 01:50:03,119 we're all inside and I'm like what and 2383 01:50:08,090 --> 01:50:05,820 he goes dude so we're sitting there 2384 01:50:10,609 --> 01:50:08,100 we're like we're trying to soak that in 2385 01:50:13,310 --> 01:50:10,619 right right right and then 2386 01:50:15,470 --> 01:50:13,320 uh I'm sorry Jim this is so Rookie of me 2387 01:50:17,209 --> 01:50:15,480 but I've got to grab my 2388 01:50:19,310 --> 01:50:17,219 my cord because all of a sudden my 2389 01:50:20,750 --> 01:50:19,320 system just uh apparently my dog knocked 2390 01:50:24,169 --> 01:50:20,760 out the cord earlier and I'm gonna lose 2391 01:50:26,090 --> 01:50:24,179 power on you oh now we're back okay 2392 01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:26,100 so 2393 01:50:33,109 --> 01:50:27,840 all of a sudden at the end of the hall 2394 01:50:38,570 --> 01:50:35,450 and it turns into the Screech 2395 01:50:39,709 --> 01:50:38,580 and I turn my head and Aaron flips his 2396 01:50:42,050 --> 01:50:39,719 camera up 2397 01:50:44,629 --> 01:50:42,060 and we hear this thing and when I turn 2398 01:50:46,790 --> 01:50:44,639 my head Nick is staring at me his 2399 01:50:48,890 --> 01:50:46,800 camera's up on this one shoulder and 2400 01:50:52,070 --> 01:50:48,900 over his shoulder is this space that 2401 01:50:55,250 --> 01:50:52,080 looks like Pazuzu from The Exorcist this 2402 01:50:57,229 --> 01:50:55,260 shock white face over his shoulder and 2403 01:51:00,070 --> 01:50:57,239 then it just as Nick starts to turn his 2404 01:51:02,530 --> 01:51:00,080 head it folds back like it's on a hinge 2405 01:51:04,790 --> 01:51:02,540 right back over his shoulder and I go 2406 01:51:05,930 --> 01:51:04,800 did you see that and I turned to Aaron 2407 01:51:07,850 --> 01:51:05,940 and I'm like did you just see that over 2408 01:51:10,310 --> 01:51:07,860 Nick's shoulder I was blocking the shot 2409 01:51:12,290 --> 01:51:10,320 because Aaron I stepped into the way 2410 01:51:14,750 --> 01:51:12,300 Aaron couldn't see Nick 2411 01:51:18,590 --> 01:51:14,760 we didn't get the shot but I saw this 2412 01:51:22,250 --> 01:51:18,600 thing my blood ran cold I was terrified 2413 01:51:23,770 --> 01:51:22,260 that thing was so freaky looking and its 2414 01:51:26,930 --> 01:51:23,780 face was just 2415 01:51:30,050 --> 01:51:26,940 like that white skeletal face right over 2416 01:51:32,810 --> 01:51:30,060 Nick's shoulder staring at us absolutely 2417 01:51:36,530 --> 01:51:32,820 unnerving and then to have just come in 2418 01:51:38,810 --> 01:51:36,540 off of that loud scream I was offset the 2419 01:51:41,149 --> 01:51:38,820 entire then we heard thumping around we 2420 01:51:43,550 --> 01:51:41,159 go following footsteps we capture that 2421 01:51:47,629 --> 01:51:43,560 photograph of Raymond the Giant Shadow 2422 01:51:50,209 --> 01:51:47,639 figure yes where it was that was that 2423 01:51:54,229 --> 01:51:50,219 was that was that 2424 01:51:57,530 --> 01:51:54,239 um yeah that trip yeah remember that who 2425 01:52:00,550 --> 01:51:57,540 gets who is the ultimate scared dude 2426 01:52:04,310 --> 01:52:00,560 it's got to be Aaron nobody 2427 01:52:06,770 --> 01:52:04,320 yeah Aaron plays it more he he he wears 2428 01:52:09,590 --> 01:52:06,780 I think we were all effectively freaked 2429 01:52:12,229 --> 01:52:09,600 out I I didn't hide it well on that 2430 01:52:15,290 --> 01:52:12,239 episode uh they edited it well to make 2431 01:52:16,790 --> 01:52:15,300 me look like I had my stuff together 2432 01:52:19,310 --> 01:52:16,800 um but we were all pretty effectively 2433 01:52:23,390 --> 01:52:19,320 blown out Aaron's just more expressive 2434 01:52:27,410 --> 01:52:25,609 yeah and the other guys hold it together 2435 01:52:28,370 --> 01:52:27,420 better because they they're trying to be 2436 01:52:31,550 --> 01:52:28,380 cool 2437 01:52:34,310 --> 01:52:31,560 Aaron doesn't care no Aaron scares me 2438 01:52:38,149 --> 01:52:34,320 when he gets scared yeah he's just so 2439 01:52:41,510 --> 01:52:38,159 animated uh with it did you see 2440 01:52:44,149 --> 01:52:41,520 um did you see uh the demon house is 2441 01:52:47,930 --> 01:52:44,159 being made into a feature film yeah 2442 01:52:50,510 --> 01:52:47,940 that's what I heard yeah and uh did you 2443 01:52:52,070 --> 01:52:50,520 did you get a chance to to visit the 2444 01:52:56,270 --> 01:52:52,080 house when it was still 2445 01:52:57,530 --> 01:52:56,280 Bill no I I helped uh I helped behind 2446 01:52:59,450 --> 01:52:57,540 the scenes 2447 01:53:01,790 --> 01:52:59,460 um I had reached out and actually found 2448 01:53:04,370 --> 01:53:01,800 father Maginot uh the the priest that 2449 01:53:05,810 --> 01:53:04,380 worked on the case right and the guy I 2450 01:53:07,310 --> 01:53:05,820 can't remember the guy's name the one 2451 01:53:10,010 --> 01:53:07,320 guy that was kind of behind the scenes 2452 01:53:12,350 --> 01:53:10,020 on the Warren's story that was signing 2453 01:53:14,209 --> 01:53:12,360 everybody's story he swept in and got 2454 01:53:15,530 --> 01:53:14,219 like a lot of the principal players to 2455 01:53:17,930 --> 01:53:15,540 sign but he hadn't gotten a father 2456 01:53:20,149 --> 01:53:17,940 Maginot yet and Zach's like man I really 2457 01:53:21,530 --> 01:53:20,159 want to do a special about that and I 2458 01:53:23,930 --> 01:53:21,540 said well father imagine I was available 2459 01:53:25,430 --> 01:53:23,940 and that's your priest and he's and he's 2460 01:53:27,229 --> 01:53:25,440 like put me in touch we got him in touch 2461 01:53:29,030 --> 01:53:27,239 and he's like man I'd love to get that 2462 01:53:30,590 --> 01:53:29,040 house and buy that house and I found the 2463 01:53:32,270 --> 01:53:30,600 owner talked to the owner put him 2464 01:53:34,310 --> 01:53:32,280 together with Zach Zach bought the house 2465 01:53:37,430 --> 01:53:34,320 that's why if you watch the demon house 2466 01:53:39,109 --> 01:53:37,440 I'm thanked in the credits right because 2467 01:53:43,250 --> 01:53:39,119 I yeah I had a hand in helping 2468 01:53:45,050 --> 01:53:43,260 orchestrate a lot of of uh the acquiring 2469 01:53:46,729 --> 01:53:45,060 of Rights and and all of that so I had a 2470 01:53:49,010 --> 01:53:46,739 great time being a part of that but I 2471 01:53:51,050 --> 01:53:49,020 never got in when he was so impacted by 2472 01:53:52,430 --> 01:53:51,060 it you know part of you stand there and 2473 01:53:54,770 --> 01:53:52,440 I'm like I love this guy like a brother 2474 01:53:56,629 --> 01:53:54,780 there's no way it's that impactful 2475 01:53:58,669 --> 01:53:56,639 there's no way 2476 01:54:00,430 --> 01:53:58,679 and it's just because your brain just 2477 01:54:03,470 --> 01:54:00,440 has such a hard time 2478 01:54:05,629 --> 01:54:03,480 absorbing the concept of that and I'm 2479 01:54:08,750 --> 01:54:05,639 not calling him a liar by any means but 2480 01:54:12,169 --> 01:54:08,760 it's your skepticism just overrides but 2481 01:54:16,010 --> 01:54:12,179 had that not been on the heels of this 2482 01:54:20,810 --> 01:54:16,020 story that was witnessed by police 2483 01:54:24,590 --> 01:54:20,820 and DCFS yes and social workers and 2484 01:54:26,629 --> 01:54:24,600 doctors and nurses and the clergy 2485 01:54:29,030 --> 01:54:26,639 you've got to surrender to the fact that 2486 01:54:32,050 --> 01:54:29,040 at some point you got to say 2487 01:54:35,149 --> 01:54:32,060 all right it's real it's yeah there's 2488 01:54:37,129 --> 01:54:35,159 a scene in The Demon House when um 2489 01:54:39,109 --> 01:54:37,139 there's like some Tran you know they get 2490 01:54:41,209 --> 01:54:39,119 a phone call somebody is at you know on 2491 01:54:43,550 --> 01:54:41,219 the on the steps and so they call the 2492 01:54:45,649 --> 01:54:43,560 police and and Zach pulls up and the the 2493 01:54:48,109 --> 01:54:45,659 two cops are there not the police 2494 01:54:51,649 --> 01:54:48,119 captain right not the right but but 2495 01:54:53,209 --> 01:54:51,659 those two cops and and and Zach goes 2496 01:54:54,109 --> 01:54:53,219 well are you gonna go change he goes nah 2497 01:54:56,149 --> 01:54:54,119 man 2498 01:55:00,109 --> 01:54:56,159 I'm not going anywhere near that house 2499 01:55:01,790 --> 01:55:00,119 and he goes but but no no and then the 2500 01:55:04,070 --> 01:55:01,800 guy turns to him and he goes if I was 2501 01:55:06,830 --> 01:55:04,080 you I would tear that sucker down 2502 01:55:09,470 --> 01:55:06,840 and the cop would not do both of them 2503 01:55:11,030 --> 01:55:09,480 would have they stayed on the sidewalk 2504 01:55:13,669 --> 01:55:11,040 you remember they wouldn't walk up to 2505 01:55:16,490 --> 01:55:13,679 the house and and you're right it's a 2506 01:55:20,330 --> 01:55:16,500 long it's not just one or two it's like 2507 01:55:24,470 --> 01:55:20,340 everybody from the police to the child 2508 01:55:26,390 --> 01:55:24,480 services to the clergy nape whatever no 2509 01:55:28,669 --> 01:55:26,400 they saw the kid run up the wall 2510 01:55:31,010 --> 01:55:28,679 backwards and do a flip 2511 01:55:32,990 --> 01:55:31,020 yeah now listen there's a lot of Parkour 2512 01:55:34,790 --> 01:55:33,000 kids that can do crazy stuff this kid is 2513 01:55:36,530 --> 01:55:34,800 not one of them right right right and 2514 01:55:38,629 --> 01:55:36,540 that he went from a standing position to 2515 01:55:40,970 --> 01:55:38,639 doing this backflip off the wall no 2516 01:55:42,290 --> 01:55:40,980 thanks now it's funny when you talk 2517 01:55:44,930 --> 01:55:42,300 about the police right because I've 2518 01:55:47,570 --> 01:55:44,940 spoken to cops cops are some of the most 2519 01:55:48,950 --> 01:55:47,580 intuitive beings on the planet 2520 01:55:54,410 --> 01:55:48,960 they 2521 01:55:56,629 --> 01:55:54,420 that sense in order to survive right so 2522 01:55:58,729 --> 01:55:56,639 what's fascinating to me is how many 2523 01:56:01,790 --> 01:55:58,739 have had experiences and Jimmy you want 2524 01:56:04,970 --> 01:56:01,800 a good creeper we I I rented a house 2525 01:56:07,910 --> 01:56:04,980 about two blocks from where I live now 2526 01:56:09,290 --> 01:56:07,920 before I bought this house I rented that 2527 01:56:11,030 --> 01:56:09,300 house 2528 01:56:14,149 --> 01:56:11,040 we had a lot of weird stuff happen in 2529 01:56:15,530 --> 01:56:14,159 that house uh in my in our son's room he 2530 01:56:17,330 --> 01:56:15,540 did not like sleeping there because of 2531 01:56:19,310 --> 01:56:17,340 the man in his closet 2532 01:56:20,570 --> 01:56:19,320 he would hear laughter coming from under 2533 01:56:23,629 --> 01:56:20,580 his bed 2534 01:56:25,550 --> 01:56:23,639 and we're like and I'm Darkness Dave and 2535 01:56:27,410 --> 01:56:25,560 I'm still dismissing this kid's claims 2536 01:56:29,689 --> 01:56:27,420 I'm like you're just hallucini to go 2537 01:56:31,310 --> 01:56:29,699 back to sleep so finally it got so bad 2538 01:56:33,229 --> 01:56:31,320 we literally had to move him down in the 2539 01:56:36,890 --> 01:56:33,239 basement with his brothers 2540 01:56:39,470 --> 01:56:36,900 and then I use that room as my studio 2541 01:56:41,930 --> 01:56:39,480 and we would hear things and there was 2542 01:56:43,370 --> 01:56:41,940 one time I'm in the kitchen and it was a 2543 01:56:45,410 --> 01:56:43,380 split level and there's a living room 2544 01:56:47,090 --> 01:56:45,420 that overlooks the dining room and 2545 01:56:48,709 --> 01:56:47,100 kitchen and I'm in the kitchen and I 2546 01:56:50,510 --> 01:56:48,719 open up the cabinet to get something my 2547 01:56:52,310 --> 01:56:50,520 wife is sitting on the couch and very 2548 01:56:54,590 --> 01:56:52,320 clearly we hear a man speak in between 2549 01:56:58,189 --> 01:56:54,600 us and I stop and I go what 2550 01:56:59,629 --> 01:56:58,199 she goes wasn't that you and I go no 2551 01:57:01,910 --> 01:56:59,639 she goes don't screw with me I'm like 2552 01:57:03,709 --> 01:57:01,920 that wasn't me and we heard it it was 2553 01:57:06,890 --> 01:57:03,719 right in between the two of us direct 2554 01:57:08,930 --> 01:57:06,900 voice phenomena we would hear voices 2555 01:57:10,250 --> 01:57:08,940 in the basement where the boys lived 2556 01:57:12,470 --> 01:57:10,260 then there was another sub-basement 2557 01:57:14,390 --> 01:57:12,480 where the laundry was we would be down 2558 01:57:15,830 --> 01:57:14,400 there putting kids to bed and all of a 2559 01:57:17,570 --> 01:57:15,840 sudden you'd stop at the top of the 2560 01:57:20,030 --> 01:57:17,580 stairs we could hear conversation going 2561 01:57:21,350 --> 01:57:20,040 on in the in the basement and you'd go 2562 01:57:22,729 --> 01:57:21,360 walking down there and there's nobody 2563 01:57:25,970 --> 01:57:22,739 there 2564 01:57:28,550 --> 01:57:25,980 very weird stuff so we buy a house two 2565 01:57:31,250 --> 01:57:28,560 blocks away this nice little house comes 2566 01:57:33,649 --> 01:57:31,260 up for sale let's buy it 2567 01:57:36,470 --> 01:57:33,659 we clear out the entire house the only 2568 01:57:39,109 --> 01:57:36,480 room that's still intact is my studio 2569 01:57:42,350 --> 01:57:39,119 and it's my last night in the house 2570 01:57:43,669 --> 01:57:42,360 and I'm doing midnight in the desert and 2571 01:57:45,649 --> 01:57:43,679 all right we'll be back tomorrow with 2572 01:57:47,870 --> 01:57:45,659 more of the best and anomalous talk 2573 01:57:49,550 --> 01:57:47,880 radio I'm Dave Schrader this is midnight 2574 01:57:50,990 --> 01:57:49,560 in the desert and I turn off my 2575 01:57:53,570 --> 01:57:51,000 microphone and 2576 01:57:55,970 --> 01:57:53,580 say goodnight to Keith and hang up my 2577 01:57:58,970 --> 01:57:55,980 headphones and all of a sudden I hear 2578 01:58:02,209 --> 01:57:58,980 footsteps walking around in the house 2579 01:58:04,550 --> 01:58:02,219 and I'm like oh crap somebody broke in 2580 01:58:06,410 --> 01:58:04,560 because they saw that we're moving 2581 01:58:08,689 --> 01:58:06,420 so I go over and I'm listening and I 2582 01:58:11,330 --> 01:58:08,699 could hear somebody walking around I go 2583 01:58:13,729 --> 01:58:11,340 back in and I go into my son's closet 2584 01:58:16,129 --> 01:58:13,739 and I call 9-1-1 I'm like 2585 01:58:19,250 --> 01:58:16,139 send somebody there's somebody in my 2586 01:58:21,530 --> 01:58:19,260 house cops were there like in 30 seconds 2587 01:58:23,270 --> 01:58:21,540 it was insane 2588 01:58:25,669 --> 01:58:23,280 and they're like how are we gonna get in 2589 01:58:27,709 --> 01:58:25,679 and I'm like okay the key code is this 2590 01:58:29,930 --> 01:58:27,719 for the garage and they punch it in and 2591 01:58:32,149 --> 01:58:29,940 the garage goes up and I'm I'm waiting 2592 01:58:34,250 --> 01:58:32,159 to hear but somebody tries to take off 2593 01:58:36,530 --> 01:58:34,260 nothing 2594 01:58:39,229 --> 01:58:36,540 the cops walk in 2595 01:58:41,870 --> 01:58:39,239 do a sweep I hear 2596 01:58:43,490 --> 01:58:41,880 Mr Schrader yeah I come out of the 2597 01:58:45,350 --> 01:58:43,500 closet they come out of the end of the 2598 01:58:46,970 --> 01:58:45,360 room they're like Mr Schrader we just 2599 01:58:49,310 --> 01:58:46,980 did a complete sweep all the windows all 2600 01:58:51,589 --> 01:58:49,320 the doors are locked from the inside are 2601 01:58:52,729 --> 01:58:51,599 you sure you heard I'm like yeah are you 2602 01:58:55,250 --> 01:58:52,739 sure it wasn't one of your kids that 2603 01:58:57,229 --> 01:58:55,260 came over I'm like no and they're like 2604 01:58:58,729 --> 01:58:57,239 well you know it might just be the house 2605 01:59:00,589 --> 01:58:58,739 settling and then all of a sudden you 2606 01:59:02,810 --> 01:59:00,599 start hearing footsteps and the two cops 2607 01:59:05,030 --> 01:59:02,820 put their fingers up and they're like 2608 01:59:08,510 --> 01:59:05,040 and they draw their guns and they tell 2609 01:59:13,010 --> 01:59:10,910 and I walk and they shut the door and 2610 01:59:14,330 --> 01:59:13,020 they walk through the whole house the 2611 01:59:15,830 --> 01:59:14,340 two of them come back up there open the 2612 01:59:19,250 --> 01:59:15,840 door and they go we're getting out of 2613 01:59:20,510 --> 01:59:19,260 here let's go let's go and I'm like is 2614 01:59:24,109 --> 01:59:20,520 there somebody here is that they're like 2615 01:59:25,910 --> 01:59:24,119 no let's go so we got out they're like 2616 01:59:27,709 --> 01:59:25,920 don't come back here tonight come back 2617 01:59:30,109 --> 01:59:27,719 when it's light and then take your stuff 2618 01:59:32,750 --> 01:59:30,119 out of this house was that was that the 2619 01:59:35,270 --> 01:59:32,760 last was that the last was that the last 2620 01:59:37,609 --> 01:59:35,280 show you did there that was it uh that 2621 01:59:40,310 --> 01:59:37,619 was the last show I did live from that 2622 01:59:43,609 --> 01:59:40,320 studio yeah from that studio I remember 2623 01:59:46,070 --> 01:59:43,619 I remember you uh it was a couple of 2624 01:59:49,669 --> 01:59:46,080 days later you you told me the story you 2625 01:59:51,050 --> 01:59:49,679 you were talking on the phone and uh and 2626 01:59:56,030 --> 01:59:51,060 you were still a little bit freaked out 2627 01:59:58,430 --> 01:59:56,040 then yes yeah because when cops it's one 2628 02:00:00,410 --> 01:59:58,440 thing Jimmy when I go out to hunt and 2629 02:00:02,629 --> 02:00:00,420 investigate it's another when there's 2630 02:00:04,609 --> 02:00:02,639 something in my house and two cops pull 2631 02:00:06,709 --> 02:00:04,619 their guns and go 2632 02:00:08,530 --> 02:00:06,719 I'll be right back and then they come in 2633 02:00:11,209 --> 02:00:08,540 and they go let's get out of here 2634 02:00:13,129 --> 02:00:11,219 because they they can they're in the 2635 02:00:15,649 --> 02:00:13,139 room they could hear the footsteps 2636 02:00:18,649 --> 02:00:15,659 around them but there's nothing there 2637 02:00:20,629 --> 02:00:18,659 we're tipping out let's go red team go 2638 02:00:23,390 --> 02:00:20,639 red team go yeah I don't think that's 2639 02:00:26,270 --> 02:00:23,400 good advice I I I you want me to stay 2640 02:00:28,870 --> 02:00:26,280 here can I go with you guys no that's 2641 02:00:32,089 --> 02:00:28,880 what they said we're all going no no no 2642 02:00:33,470 --> 02:00:32,099 when they heard the footsteps and they 2643 02:00:35,450 --> 02:00:33,480 went out to check it out and they're 2644 02:00:37,850 --> 02:00:35,460 telling you to stay there I'm like no no 2645 02:00:40,250 --> 02:00:37,860 because I'm gonna go with somebody maybe 2646 02:00:42,589 --> 02:00:40,260 somebody hid in a closet some little 2647 02:00:44,030 --> 02:00:42,599 panel they didn't know about and they 2648 02:00:45,470 --> 02:00:44,040 they've got to protect me first so 2649 02:00:48,050 --> 02:00:45,480 they're going to draw guns go out find 2650 02:00:49,370 --> 02:00:48,060 who's in the house now sure sure they do 2651 02:00:50,570 --> 02:00:49,380 that sweeping there's nobody there and 2652 02:00:52,070 --> 02:00:50,580 then they're standing in the kitchen and 2653 02:00:54,410 --> 02:00:52,080 they start hearing it walk around them 2654 02:00:55,550 --> 02:00:54,420 that's when they're like boom let's go 2655 02:00:58,370 --> 02:00:55,560 let's go 2656 02:01:00,350 --> 02:00:58,380 not me man I'm going with the cops let's 2657 02:01:02,870 --> 02:01:00,360 take our plate right here this is famous 2658 02:01:04,970 --> 02:01:02,880 our guest tonight the one and only Dave 2659 02:01:05,870 --> 02:01:04,980 Schrader we're talking about our Spooky 2660 02:01:07,790 --> 02:01:05,880 World 2661 02:01:10,669 --> 02:01:07,800 more when we come back after this short 2662 02:01:12,410 --> 02:01:10,679 break 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02:06:41,639 uh she said I hope you're enjoying the 2764 02:06:45,709 --> 02:06:43,500 day of tonight 2765 02:06:47,209 --> 02:06:45,719 um uh 2766 02:06:49,250 --> 02:06:47,219 the 2767 02:06:53,470 --> 02:06:49,260 um uh 2768 02:06:58,370 --> 02:06:53,480 uh the video game Silent Hill 2769 02:07:00,890 --> 02:06:58,380 have you ever played it yeah okay 2770 02:07:03,830 --> 02:07:00,900 absolutely 2771 02:07:10,030 --> 02:07:03,840 freaked me out and talking about 2772 02:07:13,010 --> 02:07:10,040 enjoying being scared that video game 2773 02:07:15,709 --> 02:07:13,020 frightened me I mean to my core and I 2774 02:07:19,669 --> 02:07:15,719 couldn't stop 2775 02:07:21,109 --> 02:07:19,679 you know it's I 2776 02:07:22,550 --> 02:07:21,119 playing that game you're right it gets 2777 02:07:24,109 --> 02:07:22,560 into your head there was that nightmare 2778 02:07:25,669 --> 02:07:24,119 creatures where the two that messed with 2779 02:07:27,589 --> 02:07:25,679 me but then 2780 02:07:30,770 --> 02:07:27,599 the one game 2781 02:07:31,790 --> 02:07:30,780 I got the alien Trilogy game and I 2782 02:07:34,189 --> 02:07:31,800 played it this will tell you how far 2783 02:07:36,709 --> 02:07:34,199 back it was I was playing like Sega and 2784 02:07:38,930 --> 02:07:36,719 I'm playing it and I plug it in rent it 2785 02:07:41,030 --> 02:07:38,940 from Blockbuster remember those and I'm 2786 02:07:42,589 --> 02:07:41,040 playing the game I pop it in at like 10 2787 02:07:44,810 --> 02:07:42,599 in the morning and all of a sudden I 2788 02:07:47,270 --> 02:07:44,820 look outside and it's pitch black I'm 2789 02:07:49,070 --> 02:07:47,280 like what the and I look I've sat there 2790 02:07:50,990 --> 02:07:49,080 the entire day 2791 02:07:53,030 --> 02:07:51,000 like I put it down I'm like this is 2792 02:07:54,589 --> 02:07:53,040 ridiculous I lost myself in that game 2793 02:07:57,589 --> 02:07:54,599 for over 12 hours 2794 02:08:00,109 --> 02:07:57,599 I go into the kitchen I'm gonna wash off 2795 02:08:01,970 --> 02:08:00,119 a plate to eat off of and a brown leaf 2796 02:08:03,530 --> 02:08:01,980 skitters out on the sidewalk and I jump 2797 02:08:05,330 --> 02:08:03,540 back and scream because I thought it was 2798 02:08:07,310 --> 02:08:05,340 one of the face huggers 2799 02:08:09,709 --> 02:08:07,320 and that was it dude I I put away video 2800 02:08:12,169 --> 02:08:09,719 games at that point I I don't I play 2801 02:08:14,689 --> 02:08:12,179 Pokemon go with my kids and wife and 2802 02:08:18,290 --> 02:08:14,699 that's about the extent of it but silent 2803 02:08:20,209 --> 02:08:18,300 more yeah yeah yeah I'm with you on a a 2804 02:08:21,410 --> 02:08:20,219 couple of video games really sucked me 2805 02:08:24,589 --> 02:08:21,420 in 2806 02:08:26,930 --> 02:08:24,599 um and consumed me and Silent Hill 2807 02:08:30,890 --> 02:08:26,940 Silent Hill one two three whatever you 2808 02:08:33,370 --> 02:08:30,900 know I I did I did the uh I did the uh 2809 02:08:38,149 --> 02:08:33,380 what do they call it I did the 2810 02:08:43,129 --> 02:08:38,159 the uh the trilogy or or what have you 2811 02:08:44,330 --> 02:08:43,139 um and I couldn't stop the movies were 2812 02:08:46,790 --> 02:08:44,340 horrible 2813 02:08:50,089 --> 02:08:46,800 and and the only thing about the move 2814 02:08:52,189 --> 02:08:50,099 okay so here's here's the thing that you 2815 02:08:54,229 --> 02:08:52,199 know what frightened me the most aside 2816 02:08:56,629 --> 02:08:54,239 from the balloon clowns in the subway 2817 02:08:57,410 --> 02:08:56,639 that was really messed up in in Silent 2818 02:08:59,470 --> 02:08:57,420 Hill 2819 02:09:02,510 --> 02:08:59,480 the music 2820 02:09:06,770 --> 02:09:02,520 you would hear that music start and the 2821 02:09:09,830 --> 02:09:06,780 you know the thing and and I it was just 2822 02:09:11,990 --> 02:09:09,840 so well done it was so well done 2823 02:09:13,129 --> 02:09:12,000 yeah Resident Evil did the same thing to 2824 02:09:14,930 --> 02:09:13,139 me I just that's why I had to quit 2825 02:09:16,010 --> 02:09:14,940 because I saw myself falling into that 2826 02:09:17,990 --> 02:09:16,020 universe 2827 02:09:19,550 --> 02:09:18,000 and it was you get done and you're like 2828 02:09:21,589 --> 02:09:19,560 did I just hear something 2829 02:09:23,629 --> 02:09:21,599 and when it starts affecting your 2830 02:09:25,490 --> 02:09:23,639 reality I realize this is not the world 2831 02:09:30,530 --> 02:09:25,500 for me 2832 02:09:32,810 --> 02:09:30,540 um the I again I keep going back to uh 2833 02:09:37,070 --> 02:09:32,820 of situations like this where you get 2834 02:09:38,450 --> 02:09:37,080 drawn in and then something like 2835 02:09:41,330 --> 02:09:38,460 um you know you get away from the video 2836 02:09:44,689 --> 02:09:41,340 games and then you go and you watch like 2837 02:09:47,030 --> 02:09:44,699 American Horror Story where 2838 02:09:48,589 --> 02:09:47,040 um and and I don't know if you're a fan 2839 02:09:52,310 --> 02:09:48,599 of the franchise 2840 02:09:55,910 --> 02:09:52,320 um but it is so well written 2841 02:10:00,350 --> 02:09:55,920 um to to effectively scare you and and 2842 02:10:05,990 --> 02:10:00,360 get into your psyche that you need more 2843 02:10:09,050 --> 02:10:06,000 of it and you need more and and the 2844 02:10:12,950 --> 02:10:09,060 I I'm gonna just consider the writing 2845 02:10:15,770 --> 02:10:12,960 and the creativity of Ryan Murphy uh to 2846 02:10:20,050 --> 02:10:15,780 do to get to that dark part of our minds 2847 02:10:22,729 --> 02:10:20,060 I mean some of it is really I mean it's 2848 02:10:25,629 --> 02:10:22,739 perverse is the right word not in a 2849 02:10:28,910 --> 02:10:25,639 sexual way in a Twisted 2850 02:10:32,570 --> 02:10:28,920 demented sort of way 2851 02:10:34,490 --> 02:10:32,580 um that he is able to to go right where 2852 02:10:38,270 --> 02:10:34,500 you don't think he's going to go and he 2853 02:10:40,370 --> 02:10:38,280 does and then you want more 2854 02:10:43,070 --> 02:10:40,380 I I've never been a fan of the American 2855 02:10:44,629 --> 02:10:43,080 Horror Story uh serials I just felt that 2856 02:10:46,669 --> 02:10:44,639 they I don't know they didn't resonate 2857 02:10:48,410 --> 02:10:46,679 with me I The Conjuring the first 2858 02:10:50,570 --> 02:10:48,420 Conjuring movie did though the first one 2859 02:10:53,270 --> 02:10:50,580 got into my head it was creepy the movie 2860 02:10:57,530 --> 02:10:53,280 Sinister that one really unnerved me 2861 02:11:00,229 --> 02:10:57,540 really really that was a good head screw 2862 02:11:02,510 --> 02:11:00,239 um for a horror movie and uh paranormal 2863 02:11:04,250 --> 02:11:02,520 theme so I really like I like when you 2864 02:11:05,390 --> 02:11:04,260 can Engage The Consciousness but you do 2865 02:11:06,890 --> 02:11:05,400 have to be careful because as you said 2866 02:11:09,229 --> 02:11:06,900 you start getting into that addiction 2867 02:11:10,850 --> 02:11:09,239 and you want more and they have to amp 2868 02:11:13,129 --> 02:11:10,860 it up in order to get you to that place 2869 02:11:14,930 --> 02:11:13,139 and that that's where it starts to you 2870 02:11:16,070 --> 02:11:14,940 when you start becoming numb to it it's 2871 02:11:18,169 --> 02:11:16,080 uh 2872 02:11:21,109 --> 02:11:18,179 it's a little bothersome for me you know 2873 02:11:22,729 --> 02:11:21,119 uh and that's what I kind of felt like 2874 02:11:24,169 --> 02:11:22,739 with with my experience with American 2875 02:11:25,729 --> 02:11:24,179 Horror Story was that they were just 2876 02:11:27,890 --> 02:11:25,739 hitting 2877 02:11:29,390 --> 02:11:27,900 over the top instead of telling me good 2878 02:11:31,729 --> 02:11:29,400 stories they were just trying to outdo 2879 02:11:33,350 --> 02:11:31,739 the creep factor from the last time so 2880 02:11:35,030 --> 02:11:33,360 but I'm not besmirching it I mean 2881 02:11:37,189 --> 02:11:35,040 everybody's got their different vibe 2882 02:11:40,129 --> 02:11:37,199 that they dig yeah yeah somebody just 2883 02:11:41,810 --> 02:11:40,139 wrote uh didn't Ryan Murphy do Glee I 2884 02:11:45,890 --> 02:11:41,820 believe he did 2885 02:11:47,089 --> 02:11:45,900 which doesn't make any sense and uh now 2886 02:11:49,669 --> 02:11:47,099 Ryan 2887 02:11:51,350 --> 02:11:49,679 um and I've I've said this uh a few 2888 02:11:55,689 --> 02:11:51,360 times on the show 2889 02:12:01,609 --> 02:11:59,390 Ryan and I uh we we went to high school 2890 02:12:05,149 --> 02:12:01,619 together now 2891 02:12:07,609 --> 02:12:05,159 um uh we were two grades apart I was a 2892 02:12:09,350 --> 02:12:07,619 senior he was a sophomore 2893 02:12:11,810 --> 02:12:09,360 um but 2894 02:12:14,270 --> 02:12:11,820 um my point being I know the 2895 02:12:16,850 --> 02:12:14,280 neighborhood I know the high school I 2896 02:12:20,209 --> 02:12:16,860 know you know the thing I don't know 2897 02:12:23,450 --> 02:12:20,219 what happened where he went I I didn't 2898 02:12:25,970 --> 02:12:23,460 get all twisted man he got twisted up I 2899 02:12:27,589 --> 02:12:25,980 mean he his ability to write that kind 2900 02:12:30,229 --> 02:12:27,599 of horror 2901 02:12:33,229 --> 02:12:30,239 um I I man I'm just very impressed with 2902 02:12:35,689 --> 02:12:33,239 it but none of my friends 2903 02:12:37,910 --> 02:12:35,699 um in our group right our our friends 2904 02:12:40,970 --> 02:12:37,920 nobody went off the deep end man but 2905 02:12:43,430 --> 02:12:40,980 Ryan did he he's in a dark place and 2906 02:12:45,530 --> 02:12:43,440 he's able to write it right well that's 2907 02:12:47,689 --> 02:12:45,540 his vent Port right he must you know 2908 02:12:50,510 --> 02:12:47,699 listen I was bullied mercilessly as a 2909 02:12:53,089 --> 02:12:50,520 child uh broke my spirit broke my will I 2910 02:12:54,770 --> 02:12:53,099 think maybe that's why I I am so 2911 02:12:56,510 --> 02:12:54,780 fascinated by the Paranormal realm 2912 02:12:57,830 --> 02:12:56,520 because I feel like at all places this 2913 02:13:01,250 --> 02:12:57,840 is a thing I've got a little bit more 2914 02:13:03,530 --> 02:13:01,260 control in uh I I allow the scares I 2915 02:13:05,629 --> 02:13:03,540 allow myself into these situations I 2916 02:13:08,330 --> 02:13:05,639 know that sounds weird but I kind of 2917 02:13:11,030 --> 02:13:08,340 feel like that's the 2918 02:13:14,390 --> 02:13:11,040 more controllable for me if that makes 2919 02:13:19,069 --> 02:13:14,400 sense well okay and then here's here's 2920 02:13:21,669 --> 02:13:19,079 the Twist and this is uh 2921 02:13:24,970 --> 02:13:21,679 when it comes to True Crime 2922 02:13:31,310 --> 02:13:24,980 lately and I'm gonna say in the last 2923 02:13:34,010 --> 02:13:31,320 year or so I am thoroughly into the true 2924 02:13:36,169 --> 02:13:34,020 crime documentaries 2925 02:13:38,270 --> 02:13:36,179 um and and and some of them are really 2926 02:13:40,729 --> 02:13:38,280 well done now I mean where they find 2927 02:13:45,050 --> 02:13:40,739 these cases and get into it but it's the 2928 02:13:48,470 --> 02:13:45,060 it's the true aspect to it where 2929 02:13:51,109 --> 02:13:48,480 um that to me is as frightening and as 2930 02:13:54,229 --> 02:13:51,119 disturbing as some crazy science fiction 2931 02:13:57,410 --> 02:13:54,239 right you know some kind of a horror 2932 02:13:59,450 --> 02:13:57,420 fiction the True Crime stuff it it 2933 02:14:01,069 --> 02:13:59,460 affects the same part of our head 2934 02:14:04,310 --> 02:14:01,079 doesn't it 2935 02:14:06,290 --> 02:14:04,320 right it's that Fear Factor I uh I I had 2936 02:14:08,629 --> 02:14:06,300 to step away I did uh True Crime Tuesday 2937 02:14:11,149 --> 02:14:08,639 for a little over 10 years I remember 2938 02:14:14,629 --> 02:14:11,159 yeah I had to step away it just got too 2939 02:14:17,270 --> 02:14:14,639 dark uh because it was 2940 02:14:19,189 --> 02:14:17,280 you know the darkness in humanity 2941 02:14:21,169 --> 02:14:19,199 but to face it every week just hearing 2942 02:14:24,649 --> 02:14:21,179 these stories was too much you know 2943 02:14:26,089 --> 02:14:24,659 tomorrow will be the 27th anniversary 2944 02:14:29,689 --> 02:14:26,099 um I hate saying University that sounds 2945 02:14:32,629 --> 02:14:29,699 like a merry thing 27th uh remembrance 2946 02:14:34,250 --> 02:14:32,639 of the day that my my friend Deb and two 2947 02:14:35,450 --> 02:14:34,260 of her children lost their lives to 2948 02:14:38,330 --> 02:14:35,460 three 2949 02:14:40,370 --> 02:14:38,340 horrific animals in the Chicagoland area 2950 02:14:42,470 --> 02:14:40,380 and 2951 02:14:43,850 --> 02:14:42,480 I was fascinated by True Crime because 2952 02:14:46,189 --> 02:14:43,860 of that because I wanted to understand 2953 02:14:48,709 --> 02:14:46,199 what goes on in a human brain that this 2954 02:14:50,750 --> 02:14:48,719 is okay that you thought not only did 2955 02:14:52,790 --> 02:14:50,760 you think it was a good idea to pretend 2956 02:14:54,649 --> 02:14:52,800 you're pregnant for nine months 2957 02:14:57,109 --> 02:14:54,659 so that you could go in and Steal This 2958 02:14:58,790 --> 02:14:57,119 Woman's unborn child and kill her and 2959 02:15:01,550 --> 02:14:58,800 her children but you got your boyfriend 2960 02:15:05,209 --> 02:15:01,560 and his cousin to go along with it 2961 02:15:07,729 --> 02:15:05,219 I I I wanted to dive into that realm to 2962 02:15:09,589 --> 02:15:07,739 understand it and then when I started to 2963 02:15:10,970 --> 02:15:09,599 understand it that that was too scary 2964 02:15:13,490 --> 02:15:10,980 I'm like God I don't want to understand 2965 02:15:15,589 --> 02:15:13,500 why people do this I don't I don't want 2966 02:15:16,669 --> 02:15:15,599 it to make sense in any way shape or 2967 02:15:20,510 --> 02:15:16,679 form 2968 02:15:21,890 --> 02:15:20,520 and I that's so my I've given up on True 2969 02:15:24,109 --> 02:15:21,900 Crime because of that because it just 2970 02:15:25,550 --> 02:15:24,119 the darkness of humanity I'm not afraid 2971 02:15:28,729 --> 02:15:25,560 of the dead I'm terrified of the living 2972 02:15:32,209 --> 02:15:28,739 people are horrible yeah and here's the 2973 02:15:33,890 --> 02:15:32,219 thing when when you hear of cases like 2974 02:15:38,990 --> 02:15:33,900 that 2975 02:15:41,689 --> 02:15:39,000 um I I find real I I immediately go here 2976 02:15:44,290 --> 02:15:41,699 there's got to be drugs involved right 2977 02:15:47,569 --> 02:15:44,300 somebody has just got to be high 2978 02:15:51,709 --> 02:15:47,579 out of their mind because somebody that 2979 02:15:55,089 --> 02:15:51,719 is not on drugs wouldn't do this and 2980 02:15:58,729 --> 02:15:55,099 then you find the the 2981 02:16:01,970 --> 02:15:58,739 those that aren't right and you just 2982 02:16:05,750 --> 02:16:01,980 wonder is it is it DNA 2983 02:16:06,470 --> 02:16:05,760 you know look I lived I lived a harsh 2984 02:16:11,750 --> 02:16:06,480 life 2985 02:16:13,609 --> 02:16:11,760 grew up but I didn't you know you know 2986 02:16:14,890 --> 02:16:13,619 what I mean I didn't I didn't lose my 2987 02:16:17,330 --> 02:16:14,900 mind 2988 02:16:19,189 --> 02:16:17,340 like I said I was bullied I ran through 2989 02:16:20,810 --> 02:16:19,199 a lot of things in life that you hear 2990 02:16:22,790 --> 02:16:20,820 all these other guys tell their stories 2991 02:16:24,589 --> 02:16:22,800 and right right you know I had a nervous 2992 02:16:25,970 --> 02:16:24,599 breakdown in fourth grade Jimmy I 2993 02:16:27,709 --> 02:16:25,980 literally had a nervous breakdown and 2994 02:16:29,149 --> 02:16:27,719 had to be removed from the school I was 2995 02:16:32,389 --> 02:16:29,159 in because I couldn't take the abuse 2996 02:16:34,070 --> 02:16:32,399 anymore and I I tried to swing the other 2997 02:16:36,469 --> 02:16:34,080 way with empathy to show empathy for 2998 02:16:37,910 --> 02:16:36,479 people in love and and forgiveness and 2999 02:16:40,070 --> 02:16:37,920 move on 3000 02:16:43,429 --> 02:16:40,080 um and then you'd but you sit there and 3001 02:16:46,070 --> 02:16:43,439 you go why why didn't he why why was his 3002 02:16:49,009 --> 02:16:46,080 torture so much worse than mine but it 3003 02:16:49,019 --> 02:16:51,049 um 3004 02:16:54,549 --> 02:16:52,669 you know everybody just has a different 3005 02:16:57,169 --> 02:16:54,559 level of 3006 02:16:59,030 --> 02:16:57,179 absorption I guess I'm just lucky that 3007 02:17:00,709 --> 02:16:59,040 mine didn't go that way I mean we all 3008 02:17:02,929 --> 02:17:00,719 have that voice we're all one bad day 3009 02:17:05,750 --> 02:17:02,939 away from doing something horrible right 3010 02:17:07,370 --> 02:17:05,760 right right right but uh but it's that 3011 02:17:09,110 --> 02:17:07,380 voice that says no no no 3012 02:17:10,969 --> 02:17:09,120 running Jimmy over with your car would 3013 02:17:15,169 --> 02:17:10,979 not be conducive for tomorrow's you know 3014 02:17:18,349 --> 02:17:15,179 golf outing so you know yeah you know um 3015 02:17:20,509 --> 02:17:18,359 I I didn't watch all of it because I I 3016 02:17:22,570 --> 02:17:20,519 didn't dig it but I watched some of it 3017 02:17:26,690 --> 02:17:22,580 I'm talking about the Dahmer you know 3018 02:17:28,490 --> 02:17:26,700 series and so you know watching the 3019 02:17:31,190 --> 02:17:28,500 parts about his childhood in like 3020 02:17:33,469 --> 02:17:31,200 episodes one two and three or one and 3021 02:17:36,830 --> 02:17:33,479 two my friend 3022 02:17:39,469 --> 02:17:36,840 that's that's that's not bad enough to 3023 02:17:43,190 --> 02:17:39,479 to grow up to you know to do the things 3024 02:17:45,889 --> 02:17:43,200 that he did and my time mine was twice 3025 02:17:48,410 --> 02:17:45,899 as harsh as that what if what if Jimmy 3026 02:17:50,750 --> 02:17:48,420 let's go into the creepy woo real quick 3027 02:17:53,330 --> 02:17:50,760 yes what if the reason we're having more 3028 02:17:55,669 --> 02:17:53,340 psychosis in in psychopathy with people 3029 02:17:58,549 --> 02:17:55,679 is the fact that we say all right if 3030 02:18:00,410 --> 02:17:58,559 reincarnation exists there are now more 3031 02:18:02,690 --> 02:18:00,420 people on this planet than there ever 3032 02:18:04,790 --> 02:18:02,700 was before 3033 02:18:06,830 --> 02:18:04,800 where are the souls coming from right 3034 02:18:09,290 --> 02:18:06,840 the stools are fracturing maybe the 3035 02:18:11,509 --> 02:18:09,300 souls maybe Dahmer only got part of a 3036 02:18:13,370 --> 02:18:11,519 soul maybe he only got a dark element 3037 02:18:14,330 --> 02:18:13,380 where Dave Schrader got the good element 3038 02:18:20,870 --> 02:18:14,340 and 3039 02:18:23,030 --> 02:18:20,880 same pathway but his turned him into one 3040 02:18:25,070 --> 02:18:23,040 just something to think about I mean it 3041 02:18:28,129 --> 02:18:25,080 does make sense if reincarnation exists 3042 02:18:30,830 --> 02:18:28,139 and we're all recycled beings 3043 02:18:32,570 --> 02:18:30,840 how are there this many now where did 3044 02:18:35,030 --> 02:18:32,580 where did all these new Souls come from 3045 02:18:36,290 --> 02:18:35,040 yeah yeah yeah yeah you bring up a good 3046 02:18:39,110 --> 02:18:36,300 point 3047 02:18:41,690 --> 02:18:39,120 um I'll say this I don't want to give 3048 02:18:44,270 --> 02:18:41,700 away or speak bad uh about a family 3049 02:18:47,330 --> 02:18:44,280 member of mine or anything like that but 3050 02:18:50,030 --> 02:18:47,340 I can only speak out of uh my own 3051 02:18:51,650 --> 02:18:50,040 experience and uh you know so I've got 3052 02:18:54,530 --> 02:18:51,660 I've got Brothers all the way around 3053 02:18:56,870 --> 02:18:54,540 right I've got brother and 3054 02:18:59,870 --> 02:18:56,880 I'm gonna say it man when we were like 3055 02:19:03,110 --> 02:18:59,880 three four five years old 3056 02:19:05,830 --> 02:19:03,120 one of this was definitely predisposed 3057 02:19:09,790 --> 02:19:05,840 to being a criminal right 3058 02:19:13,610 --> 02:19:09,800 you saw it you saw it going on and I 3059 02:19:17,389 --> 02:19:13,620 didn't have it it's weird same house 3060 02:19:20,750 --> 02:19:17,399 same bedroom same thing same parents 3061 02:19:23,750 --> 02:19:20,760 same every button right you know it was 3062 02:19:25,250 --> 02:19:23,760 it was bizarre to watch and we just went 3063 02:19:26,509 --> 02:19:25,260 like two different two different 3064 02:19:29,270 --> 02:19:26,519 directions 3065 02:19:31,310 --> 02:19:29,280 I like Susie has the definitive answer 3066 02:19:34,370 --> 02:19:31,320 in the chat room oh Dave please he chose 3067 02:19:36,469 --> 02:19:34,380 to be evil do we or does evil just 3068 02:19:39,349 --> 02:19:36,479 inhabit things is somebody born without 3069 02:19:40,969 --> 02:19:39,359 Souls you know when you think about it's 3070 02:19:42,589 --> 02:19:40,979 really easy to dismiss that this is it 3071 02:19:44,209 --> 02:19:42,599 and I hate the old the devil made me do 3072 02:19:47,650 --> 02:19:44,219 it but when you when you can look at 3073 02:19:50,150 --> 02:19:47,660 things like Ted Bundy they are on record 3074 02:19:52,070 --> 02:19:50,160 attorneys working with him would say his 3075 02:19:53,690 --> 02:19:52,080 eyes would change colors 3076 02:19:56,530 --> 02:19:53,700 when they found the body of that little 3077 02:19:59,690 --> 02:19:56,540 girl his face contorted into a 3078 02:20:02,150 --> 02:19:59,700 monstrous look not just uh angry but 3079 02:20:06,070 --> 02:20:02,160 they said he physically changed and 3080 02:20:10,370 --> 02:20:06,080 began emitting a sulfurous smell 3081 02:20:12,889 --> 02:20:10,380 evil exists I know it exists it took my 3082 02:20:15,110 --> 02:20:12,899 friend and her two children right I know 3083 02:20:16,730 --> 02:20:15,120 that evil exists 3084 02:20:18,889 --> 02:20:16,740 I don't know that we all make that 3085 02:20:20,810 --> 02:20:18,899 choice some of us I think are born to be 3086 02:20:22,730 --> 02:20:20,820 vessels of evil 3087 02:20:26,090 --> 02:20:22,740 and you're right you think everybody has 3088 02:20:28,910 --> 02:20:26,100 a choice maybe not now you can also look 3089 02:20:30,230 --> 02:20:28,920 into the whole the aspect of 3090 02:20:32,090 --> 02:20:30,240 reincarnation I've always had problems 3091 02:20:34,910 --> 02:20:32,100 with is that we make the soul contract 3092 02:20:37,010 --> 02:20:34,920 and we choose this life path so that we 3093 02:20:40,610 --> 02:20:37,020 can learn lessons and you think why 3094 02:20:42,889 --> 02:20:40,620 would I pick to be an abused bullied kid 3095 02:20:46,010 --> 02:20:42,899 uh why would I pick to go through the 3096 02:20:47,210 --> 02:20:46,020 things I've gone through uh I don't that 3097 02:20:49,670 --> 02:20:47,220 doesn't make sense to me well doesn't 3098 02:20:52,309 --> 02:20:49,680 Dave but in your soul life you you had 3099 02:20:54,770 --> 02:20:52,319 to learn to make your next Evolution but 3100 02:20:56,570 --> 02:20:54,780 I don't know about that right maybe 3101 02:20:58,730 --> 02:20:56,580 there are elements of that I don't know 3102 02:21:00,889 --> 02:20:58,740 I can't definitively say none of your 3103 02:21:03,050 --> 02:21:00,899 viewers or listeners can definitively 3104 02:21:04,849 --> 02:21:03,060 say we can say what we hope is true 3105 02:21:07,550 --> 02:21:04,859 because nobody wants to believe just how 3106 02:21:10,309 --> 02:21:07,560 horrible the world really is and how 3107 02:21:12,830 --> 02:21:10,319 horrible people can truly be but every 3108 02:21:16,929 --> 02:21:12,840 day sadly we're reminded that there are 3109 02:21:21,230 --> 02:21:16,939 soulless beings that just are bent on 3110 02:21:24,230 --> 02:21:21,240 bad bad things I have no remorse that's 3111 02:21:27,590 --> 02:21:24,240 right that's right so that this uh movie 3112 02:21:30,710 --> 02:21:27,600 series came out called uh uh the good 3113 02:21:32,929 --> 02:21:30,720 nurse right okay whatever 3114 02:21:36,349 --> 02:21:32,939 um I had no inter I remember that I 3115 02:21:38,690 --> 02:21:36,359 remember when that was a headline I had 3116 02:21:42,710 --> 02:21:38,700 no interest in but I watched the 3117 02:21:45,830 --> 02:21:42,720 documentary right about catching the 3118 02:21:48,469 --> 02:21:45,840 nurse now that was all so I watched that 3119 02:21:50,510 --> 02:21:48,479 and what was so 3120 02:21:53,270 --> 02:21:50,520 um to see the interviews with him 3121 02:21:55,990 --> 02:21:53,280 especially after he was caught 3122 02:22:00,590 --> 02:21:56,000 um here you have literally 3123 02:22:03,590 --> 02:22:00,600 your job is to help people your job is 3124 02:22:05,630 --> 02:22:03,600 to keep people alive that's your job 3125 02:22:08,110 --> 02:22:05,640 that's your that's your that's your 3126 02:22:11,690 --> 02:22:08,120 bliss you found you know that and he was 3127 02:22:16,730 --> 02:22:11,700 a good nurse you know and and everyone 3128 02:22:20,090 --> 02:22:16,740 but here what what darkness comes over 3129 02:22:21,770 --> 02:22:20,100 over somebody when it you know and I in 3130 02:22:24,050 --> 02:22:21,780 the in the fight now I haven't watched 3131 02:22:26,570 --> 02:22:24,060 that though so is it that there's a 3132 02:22:29,030 --> 02:22:26,580 point where as a good nurse you start to 3133 02:22:31,010 --> 02:22:29,040 realize this person does not have a 3134 02:22:33,110 --> 02:22:31,020 quality of life I'm seeing the 3135 02:22:36,050 --> 02:22:33,120 interactions the real interactions with 3136 02:22:38,510 --> 02:22:36,060 his family or her family I see the way 3137 02:22:40,610 --> 02:22:38,520 they're being treated 3138 02:22:42,469 --> 02:22:40,620 compassionately I could end this 3139 02:22:44,929 --> 02:22:42,479 person's life and and their suffering 3140 02:22:46,849 --> 02:22:44,939 and end the horrific nature of what 3141 02:22:49,969 --> 02:22:46,859 people are doing to that maybe there's 3142 02:22:51,950 --> 02:22:49,979 those elements and every villain yeah 3143 02:22:55,429 --> 02:22:51,960 every villain is the hero of Their Own 3144 02:22:57,349 --> 02:22:55,439 Story right sure absolutely and then and 3145 02:23:00,610 --> 02:22:57,359 so then 3146 02:23:05,270 --> 02:23:00,620 um he he was caught 3147 02:23:09,889 --> 02:23:05,280 uh with 40 deaths okay 3148 02:23:13,790 --> 02:23:09,899 it's it's suspected that he may have 3149 02:23:16,309 --> 02:23:13,800 been involved with between four and six 3150 02:23:19,790 --> 02:23:16,319 hundred 3151 02:23:22,490 --> 02:23:19,800 so at what part at what point is it 3152 02:23:24,950 --> 02:23:22,500 compassion right right 3153 02:23:26,950 --> 02:23:24,960 and is it just 3154 02:23:30,110 --> 02:23:26,960 compulsive 3155 02:23:32,809 --> 02:23:30,120 that that there's just you you are doing 3156 02:23:34,670 --> 02:23:32,819 this for sport because 3157 02:23:38,330 --> 02:23:34,680 um there was another and I and I'm 3158 02:23:42,770 --> 02:23:38,340 saying this without any jest at all 3159 02:23:45,530 --> 02:23:42,780 he said that he went and had a row of 3160 02:23:48,530 --> 02:23:45,540 plasma bags you know insulin I mean uh 3161 02:23:49,610 --> 02:23:48,540 you know plasma and he's injecting all 3162 02:23:51,230 --> 02:23:49,620 of them 3163 02:23:54,830 --> 02:23:51,240 with plasma 3164 02:23:57,530 --> 02:23:54,840 insulin I mean and and which you know 3165 02:23:59,410 --> 02:23:57,540 obviously uh blood sugar boom kills you 3166 02:24:04,270 --> 02:23:59,420 it throws you into a coma you're dead 3167 02:24:08,750 --> 02:24:04,280 that's random so he's not specifically 3168 02:24:10,849 --> 02:24:08,760 picking right a person these nurses are 3169 02:24:11,990 --> 02:24:10,859 coming in they need a bag of plasma they 3170 02:24:14,330 --> 02:24:12,000 pull it down they're walking down the 3171 02:24:16,130 --> 02:24:14,340 hall he doesn't know who's about to get 3172 02:24:20,450 --> 02:24:16,140 killed 3173 02:24:23,570 --> 02:24:20,460 right that that just blew my and and how 3174 02:24:26,210 --> 02:24:23,580 much of this went on in these hospitals 3175 02:24:28,550 --> 02:24:26,220 one over and over again Dave were 3176 02:24:30,290 --> 02:24:28,560 thinking that the labs were screwing up 3177 02:24:32,450 --> 02:24:30,300 that their equipment was messed up that 3178 02:24:34,250 --> 02:24:32,460 the blood sugar levels were things and 3179 02:24:36,590 --> 02:24:34,260 you know they're looking in the other 3180 02:24:39,770 --> 02:24:36,600 direction uh trying to figure this out 3181 02:24:41,510 --> 02:24:39,780 with a logistical pragmatic mindset 3182 02:24:44,570 --> 02:24:41,520 right that's got to be faulty equipment 3183 02:24:47,929 --> 02:24:44,580 it's it's this is that meanwhile it's a 3184 02:24:49,670 --> 02:24:47,939 guy just injecting bags of plasma with 3185 02:24:52,309 --> 02:24:49,680 insulin 3186 02:24:54,469 --> 02:24:52,319 wow you know that's that's a twisted I 3187 02:24:55,910 --> 02:24:54,479 don't know right here's the deal do you 3188 02:24:57,290 --> 02:24:55,920 want to figure it out do you want to 3189 02:24:58,969 --> 02:24:57,300 know why do you really want to get into 3190 02:25:00,710 --> 02:24:58,979 the head where you it makes sense to you 3191 02:25:02,809 --> 02:25:00,720 at some point we all want to just 3192 02:25:04,150 --> 02:25:02,819 because we we have that want and desire 3193 02:25:06,170 --> 02:25:04,160 to put everything into a perfect little 3194 02:25:07,610 --> 02:25:06,180 compartmentalized thing this is what it 3195 02:25:09,469 --> 02:25:07,620 is this is what it means this is what it 3196 02:25:12,110 --> 02:25:09,479 looks like fact is 3197 02:25:15,650 --> 02:25:12,120 that's why zombie movies are so 3198 02:25:17,990 --> 02:25:15,660 effective that's why George uh 3199 02:25:21,349 --> 02:25:18,000 oh God Romero tapped into something 3200 02:25:23,630 --> 02:25:21,359 because it could be your son your mother 3201 02:25:25,849 --> 02:25:23,640 your wife your husband your neighbor 3202 02:25:28,670 --> 02:25:25,859 people that you just had barbecue with 3203 02:25:30,190 --> 02:25:28,680 yesterday the monsters anywhere and 3204 02:25:33,110 --> 02:25:30,200 could be anywhere at any given time 3205 02:25:35,450 --> 02:25:33,120 that's that's terrifying that's a 3206 02:25:38,929 --> 02:25:35,460 terrifying part you know you're going to 3207 02:25:44,030 --> 02:25:38,939 a hospital uh to get well 3208 02:25:46,990 --> 02:25:44,040 and then the monster is an RN on your 3209 02:25:50,090 --> 02:25:47,000 floor yeah crap that's a nightmare 3210 02:25:53,030 --> 02:25:51,889 no I went to us I went to school with a 3211 02:25:54,770 --> 02:25:53,040 guy who 3212 02:25:56,330 --> 02:25:54,780 got pissed off at his parents murdered 3213 02:25:58,190 --> 02:25:56,340 his parents had a big party at the house 3214 02:25:59,990 --> 02:25:58,200 while the parents are dead in the 3215 02:26:01,370 --> 02:26:00,000 bedroom there's jackets laying on the 3216 02:26:03,050 --> 02:26:01,380 you know he grabbed the jackets and 3217 02:26:04,429 --> 02:26:03,060 throw them in the room and then he'd go 3218 02:26:05,750 --> 02:26:04,439 in and get them for people and they're 3219 02:26:07,190 --> 02:26:05,760 all having a big party where are your 3220 02:26:10,010 --> 02:26:07,200 parents ah they're gone they don't care 3221 02:26:12,590 --> 02:26:10,020 and uh yeah he murdered his family and 3222 02:26:15,050 --> 02:26:12,600 and you just like he's at the party just 3223 02:26:18,590 --> 02:26:15,060 being himself and everybody's like oh 3224 02:26:23,270 --> 02:26:21,410 yeah and yeah and you knew he you knew 3225 02:26:25,910 --> 02:26:23,280 him yeah 3226 02:26:27,650 --> 02:26:25,920 if you weren't at the party were you no 3227 02:26:30,770 --> 02:26:27,660 no he was a couple years younger than me 3228 02:26:32,750 --> 02:26:30,780 okay yeah but uh we we went to the same 3229 02:26:33,830 --> 02:26:32,760 babysitter growing up 3230 02:26:34,990 --> 02:26:33,840 um 3231 02:26:37,849 --> 02:26:35,000 yeah 3232 02:26:39,469 --> 02:26:37,859 and sometimes you can you know he was 3233 02:26:41,210 --> 02:26:39,479 always a little bit of an off kid but 3234 02:26:43,910 --> 02:26:41,220 who am I to judge you know I mean we all 3235 02:26:45,110 --> 02:26:43,920 have idiosyncrasies and 3236 02:26:47,690 --> 02:26:45,120 but 3237 02:26:49,370 --> 02:26:47,700 that's a different kind of off that you 3238 02:26:50,570 --> 02:26:49,380 I'm gonna murder somebody and then I'm 3239 02:26:52,490 --> 02:26:50,580 gonna invite everybody over to have a 3240 02:26:55,610 --> 02:26:52,500 party and just 3241 02:26:57,410 --> 02:26:55,620 act like nothing got to me that that's 3242 02:26:59,150 --> 02:26:57,420 there's something wrong with Humanity 3243 02:27:01,550 --> 02:26:59,160 there's you know we're in a world right 3244 02:27:04,130 --> 02:27:01,560 now that's really scary because we don't 3245 02:27:07,010 --> 02:27:04,140 know where the enemy is coming from next 3246 02:27:09,770 --> 02:27:07,020 and and that's a scary place to be yeah 3247 02:27:11,510 --> 02:27:09,780 you know when you uh you you have the 3248 02:27:13,370 --> 02:27:11,520 crazy uncle that uh you know tells the 3249 02:27:15,230 --> 02:27:13,380 story about the guy that escaped with me 3250 02:27:18,070 --> 02:27:15,240 insane asylum and the hook was in the 3251 02:27:21,530 --> 02:27:18,080 car in the door handle you know and and 3252 02:27:26,590 --> 02:27:21,540 what right and then then you hear the 3253 02:27:28,570 --> 02:27:26,600 story about the uh uh so earlier today 3254 02:27:33,170 --> 02:27:28,580 right right 3255 02:27:37,330 --> 02:27:33,180 uh criminally insane inmate has escaped 3256 02:27:40,790 --> 02:27:37,340 and is now right and the Manhunt is on 3257 02:27:43,250 --> 02:27:40,800 and that's that's the thing you just you 3258 02:27:45,290 --> 02:27:43,260 just never know you you absolutely don't 3259 02:27:46,070 --> 02:27:45,300 I was driving 3260 02:27:48,830 --> 02:27:46,080 um 3261 02:27:50,450 --> 02:27:48,840 I told this a couple of weeks ago I had 3262 02:27:52,790 --> 02:27:50,460 to drive so I'm driving across the 3263 02:27:56,570 --> 02:27:52,800 desert and uh I was driving to Palm 3264 02:27:58,490 --> 02:27:56,580 Springs and uh and and so I'm coming 3265 02:28:01,730 --> 02:27:58,500 around the corner and I see this sign 3266 02:28:03,349 --> 02:28:01,740 that said do not pick up hitchhikers 3267 02:28:05,570 --> 02:28:03,359 prison 3268 02:28:07,849 --> 02:28:05,580 right I thought wow that's a crazy sign 3269 02:28:10,490 --> 02:28:07,859 I wonder how close the prison is and I 3270 02:28:12,950 --> 02:28:10,500 round the corner and it's right here the 3271 02:28:15,230 --> 02:28:12,960 prison it's a federal prison it's it's 3272 02:28:18,770 --> 02:28:15,240 right there in the free right behind the 3273 02:28:20,389 --> 02:28:18,780 prison the wall the the guard towers is 3274 02:28:24,290 --> 02:28:20,399 a subdivision 3275 02:28:27,290 --> 02:28:24,300 our houses right well yeah 3276 02:28:30,710 --> 02:28:27,300 I just it all came flooding I was like 3277 02:28:32,389 --> 02:28:30,720 why would you live there we're all 3278 02:28:34,250 --> 02:28:32,399 within a bit but now you don't even have 3279 02:28:35,270 --> 02:28:34,260 to be in the most secure area and it 3280 02:28:38,389 --> 02:28:35,280 doesn't matter 3281 02:28:40,070 --> 02:28:38,399 you've got a man who decides he's done 3282 02:28:41,690 --> 02:28:40,080 with his wife and instead of divorcing 3283 02:28:43,910 --> 02:28:41,700 her he'd rather kill her that makes 3284 02:28:45,170 --> 02:28:43,920 sense to him uh you know he wants to 3285 02:28:47,870 --> 02:28:45,180 have a different life and his pregnant 3286 02:28:50,090 --> 02:28:47,880 wife doesn't fit into the story and he 3287 02:28:52,309 --> 02:28:50,100 kills her and thumps the body out in the 3288 02:28:54,889 --> 02:28:52,319 water and comes back and burns their 3289 02:28:56,210 --> 02:28:54,899 mattress and does a and just wants to go 3290 02:28:59,690 --> 02:28:56,220 about life 3291 02:29:02,389 --> 02:28:59,700 as normal it's just you I don't know man 3292 02:29:05,750 --> 02:29:02,399 it's a dark dark world you know we're 3293 02:29:10,250 --> 02:29:05,760 six I think I just read today 65 school 3294 02:29:14,570 --> 02:29:11,990 I don't get it 3295 02:29:17,270 --> 02:29:14,580 I think we've all been desensitized yeah 3296 02:29:19,730 --> 02:29:17,280 yeah to a level that's you know this 3297 02:29:21,290 --> 02:29:19,740 wasn't my world my kid kids don't 3298 02:29:23,090 --> 02:29:21,300 trick-or-treat like they used to they 3299 02:29:25,670 --> 02:29:23,100 don't do things like that like I can't 3300 02:29:27,469 --> 02:29:25,680 even let my you know like I was out at 3301 02:29:29,870 --> 02:29:27,479 the park by myself at five six years old 3302 02:29:31,070 --> 02:29:29,880 because my parents were bad I was out 3303 02:29:33,530 --> 02:29:31,080 with the other kids in the neighborhood 3304 02:29:34,910 --> 02:29:33,540 and and we were all a community and 3305 02:29:37,490 --> 02:29:34,920 people cared and watched out for each 3306 02:29:40,790 --> 02:29:37,500 other now nobody gives it the heck and 3307 02:29:43,370 --> 02:29:40,800 and it's a so everybody's it's it's a 3308 02:29:44,870 --> 02:29:43,380 dark world man I worry I I grieve for my 3309 02:29:47,750 --> 02:29:44,880 children and my great-grandchildren and 3310 02:29:50,090 --> 02:29:47,760 my you know I just 3311 02:29:52,969 --> 02:29:50,100 it's a weird world yeah it is you know 3312 02:29:55,910 --> 02:29:52,979 when I uh I'll just leave on this note 3313 02:29:58,250 --> 02:29:55,920 um uh when I hear the argument you know 3314 02:29:59,809 --> 02:29:58,260 well you know it's it's a it's it's a 3315 02:30:01,130 --> 02:29:59,819 right it's a constitutional right it's 3316 02:30:05,570 --> 02:30:01,140 this 3317 02:30:07,010 --> 02:30:05,580 um to to be able to own a gun and I go 3318 02:30:09,050 --> 02:30:07,020 you know what I think it's a 3319 02:30:12,050 --> 02:30:09,060 constitutional right not to get shot in 3320 02:30:15,250 --> 02:30:12,060 school crazy I did that thing I think 3321 02:30:18,290 --> 02:30:15,260 that I think that bears more weight 3322 02:30:20,870 --> 02:30:18,300 uh than than something else hey Dave 3323 02:30:22,910 --> 02:30:20,880 thank you so much my friend you're the 3324 02:30:24,290 --> 02:30:22,920 absolute very best man another perfect 3325 02:30:26,090 --> 02:30:24,300 night on the show thank you thank you 3326 02:30:27,889 --> 02:30:26,100 buddy let me everybody just clear your 3327 02:30:29,630 --> 02:30:27,899 mind put in some happy thoughts think of 3328 02:30:32,630 --> 02:30:29,640 some good stuff watch The Breakfast Club 3329 02:30:35,270 --> 02:30:32,640 get your brain into a different place uh 3330 02:30:37,370 --> 02:30:35,280 you know we talked about a dark spot we 3331 02:30:39,590 --> 02:30:37,380 talked about dark things but that's not 3332 02:30:41,389 --> 02:30:39,600 who we all are that's not what our world 3333 02:30:42,950 --> 02:30:41,399 is it's just that we're we're letting 3334 02:30:44,870 --> 02:30:42,960 that in like I said at the beginning the 3335 02:30:46,969 --> 02:30:44,880 Titanic didn't sink from hitting the the 3336 02:30:50,650 --> 02:30:46,979 iceberg it what it's what was let in 3337 02:30:54,590 --> 02:30:50,660 don't let the darkness win I think it's 3338 02:30:57,950 --> 02:30:54,600 the ranch dressing on the salad 3339 02:30:59,990 --> 02:30:57,960 I think I need to go vinaigrette Dave a 3340 02:31:02,809 --> 02:31:00,000 nice raspberry light vinaigrette thanks 3341 02:31:05,330 --> 02:31:02,819 a lot guy you're the best Dave thank you 3342 02:31:07,429 --> 02:31:05,340 so much darknessradio.com 3343 02:31:09,469 --> 02:31:07,439 um where can everybody reach out to you 3344 02:31:11,150 --> 02:31:09,479 yeah paranormal 60 every Monday and 3345 02:31:13,370 --> 02:31:11,160 Friday uh you can listen to the audio 3346 02:31:14,990 --> 02:31:13,380 wherever you listen to podcasts check 3347 02:31:16,190 --> 02:31:15,000 out the Paranormal 60 and if you do rate 3348 02:31:17,270 --> 02:31:16,200 and review it for me that would be 3349 02:31:19,190 --> 02:31:17,280 helpful 3350 02:31:21,650 --> 02:31:19,200 the absolute very best thank you so much 3351 02:31:23,630 --> 02:31:21,660 Dave thanks buddy love you be safe love 3352 02:31:26,090 --> 02:31:23,640 you right back Dave Schrader the 3353 02:31:28,010 --> 02:31:26,100 absolute very best this is Fade to 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Schrader 3455 02:37:07,730 --> 02:37:06,000 Schrader Knight here on faded black the 3456 02:37:12,170 --> 02:37:07,740 absolute very best I've opened up the 3457 02:37:17,750 --> 02:37:15,349 yeah our Spooky World man it's a it's a 3458 02:37:19,190 --> 02:37:17,760 It's a Spooky Place It's a Spooky Place 3459 02:37:22,250 --> 02:37:19,200 let's go to the phones hi you're live on 3460 02:37:23,929 --> 02:37:22,260 Fade to Black who's calling 3461 02:37:26,330 --> 02:37:23,939 okay Jimmy it's Android how's it going 3462 02:37:28,610 --> 02:37:26,340 it it's who 3463 02:37:29,870 --> 02:37:28,620 Andrew hey Andrew how you doing man 3464 02:37:33,070 --> 02:37:29,880 what's going on 3465 02:37:35,889 --> 02:37:33,080 Android oh Android 3466 02:37:38,330 --> 02:37:35,899 yeah and Droid 3467 02:37:41,090 --> 02:37:38,340 oh yeah you said that was easier last 3468 02:37:43,370 --> 02:37:41,100 time Android Purity yeah there you go 3469 02:37:44,870 --> 02:37:43,380 man yeah yeah where are you calling from 3470 02:37:47,389 --> 02:37:44,880 Android 3471 02:37:49,849 --> 02:37:47,399 calling from uh northern Maryland not 3472 02:37:52,370 --> 02:37:49,859 far from uh Gettysburg okay fair enough 3473 02:37:54,110 --> 02:37:52,380 fair enough what's on your mind man I 3474 02:37:57,530 --> 02:37:54,120 called a couple weeks ago about the uh 3475 02:38:00,410 --> 02:37:57,540 you know the light in the backyard uh 3476 02:38:01,490 --> 02:38:00,420 but um I think you and Dave are on to 3477 02:38:03,889 --> 02:38:01,500 something there I think there are some 3478 02:38:06,230 --> 02:38:03,899 people that are predisposed uh to you 3479 02:38:08,210 --> 02:38:06,240 know just some sort of evilness or just 3480 02:38:09,650 --> 02:38:08,220 you know wrong thinking or something 3481 02:38:10,910 --> 02:38:09,660 because man let me tell you my 3482 02:38:13,190 --> 02:38:10,920 girlfriend she works in the mental 3483 02:38:15,889 --> 02:38:13,200 health department and state prisons and 3484 02:38:18,830 --> 02:38:15,899 people in there are tripping balls with 3485 02:38:21,770 --> 02:38:18,840 no drugs and the stuff I hear from there 3486 02:38:24,590 --> 02:38:21,780 it just it blows my mind honestly 3487 02:38:27,050 --> 02:38:24,600 well I you bring up a good point though 3488 02:38:30,830 --> 02:38:27,060 and and Dave 3489 02:38:32,570 --> 02:38:30,840 um I I think it's a mix Android I think 3490 02:38:35,330 --> 02:38:32,580 it's a mix 3491 02:38:37,910 --> 02:38:35,340 um some of it is learned 3492 02:38:40,510 --> 02:38:37,920 right some of it is the way that you're 3493 02:38:44,210 --> 02:38:40,520 brought up maybe you did have an abusive 3494 02:38:47,150 --> 02:38:44,220 uh parental uh situation maybe there's 3495 02:38:50,809 --> 02:38:47,160 that uh maybe you witnessed something 3496 02:38:52,670 --> 02:38:50,819 that you know tipped you uh into a 3497 02:38:55,190 --> 02:38:52,680 strange way 3498 02:38:57,290 --> 02:38:55,200 um maybe some of it is desire maybe some 3499 02:39:00,250 --> 02:38:57,300 of it is chemically induced maybe some 3500 02:39:03,710 --> 02:39:00,260 of it is just a chemical imbalance 3501 02:39:05,630 --> 02:39:03,720 somewhere yeah in your head you know I 3502 02:39:07,849 --> 02:39:05,640 don't think it's any one specific thing 3503 02:39:10,670 --> 02:39:07,859 and then there could be something 3504 02:39:11,950 --> 02:39:10,680 Supernatural about it right there 3505 02:39:14,750 --> 02:39:11,960 um yeah 3506 02:39:16,969 --> 02:39:14,760 demonic possession 3507 02:39:18,770 --> 02:39:16,979 um what do you see did you see the demon 3508 02:39:20,590 --> 02:39:18,780 house after I talked about it do you see 3509 02:39:23,750 --> 02:39:20,600 did you did you watch it 3510 02:39:25,429 --> 02:39:23,760 no I haven't seen that I plan to see I 3511 02:39:26,809 --> 02:39:25,439 know it's on Discovery plus uh we're 3512 02:39:29,030 --> 02:39:26,819 Trump me and my girlfriend trying to get 3513 02:39:31,429 --> 02:39:29,040 there but just not got around to it yet 3514 02:39:33,730 --> 02:39:31,439 okay I don't think it was Discovery I 3515 02:39:37,370 --> 02:39:33,740 think I got it on 3516 02:39:40,910 --> 02:39:37,380 I think it was Amazon either Amazon or 3517 02:39:42,950 --> 02:39:40,920 or Netflix I don't think I paid for it I 3518 02:39:45,889 --> 02:39:42,960 don't think I I think it was free but 3519 02:39:48,290 --> 02:39:45,899 when you see something like that all 3520 02:39:50,630 --> 02:39:48,300 right now here's here's here's the thing 3521 02:39:54,110 --> 02:39:50,640 I'm glad you brought this up 3522 02:40:00,110 --> 02:39:54,120 um I don't know how old you are but in 3523 02:40:02,990 --> 02:40:00,120 in you know 1972 or so I was nine The 3524 02:40:05,230 --> 02:40:03,000 Exorcist comes out as a movie right yeah 3525 02:40:08,030 --> 02:40:05,240 and before my time 3526 02:40:11,030 --> 02:40:08,040 and I get that that's fair enough fair 3527 02:40:14,090 --> 02:40:11,040 enough so when The Exorcist comes out 3528 02:40:19,250 --> 02:40:14,100 um and it was a hit film and and and 3529 02:40:24,950 --> 02:40:23,030 you saw on the front page of newspapers 3530 02:40:27,650 --> 02:40:24,960 all across the country 3531 02:40:29,870 --> 02:40:27,660 people that are possessed 3532 02:40:32,570 --> 02:40:29,880 right yeah suddenly everybody's getting 3533 02:40:35,990 --> 02:40:32,580 exercised suddenly everybody's got a 3534 02:40:38,150 --> 02:40:36,000 demon in their house suddenly uh you 3535 02:40:41,990 --> 02:40:38,160 know everybody's heads are are turning 3536 02:40:45,770 --> 02:40:42,000 around and you know are get out you know 3537 02:40:49,730 --> 02:40:45,780 now it it was it was ever now is that 3538 02:40:53,030 --> 02:40:49,740 socially induced or do we have a demonic 3539 02:40:54,530 --> 02:40:53,040 Rise From Hell right or demons are all 3540 02:40:58,010 --> 02:40:54,540 over the country 3541 02:41:01,910 --> 02:40:58,020 um and and now were these 3542 02:41:05,870 --> 02:41:01,920 um uh uh uh people that had a psychosis 3543 02:41:07,610 --> 02:41:05,880 anyway that right you know I I don't 3544 02:41:09,770 --> 02:41:07,620 know what do you think 3545 02:41:12,230 --> 02:41:09,780 well I think you're onto some there I 3546 02:41:13,790 --> 02:41:12,240 saw a documentary on um on that movie 3547 02:41:15,650 --> 02:41:13,800 they didn't they release it like a week 3548 02:41:17,330 --> 02:41:15,660 before Christmas and I saw some they 3549 02:41:19,490 --> 02:41:17,340 were interviewing people in line for it 3550 02:41:20,870 --> 02:41:19,500 and after it and some people were coming 3551 02:41:23,450 --> 02:41:20,880 out because they couldn't stay for the 3552 02:41:25,490 --> 02:41:23,460 whole movie and people were like freaked 3553 02:41:27,170 --> 02:41:25,500 out and I was just like man this really 3554 02:41:28,490 --> 02:41:27,180 affected people back then I guess you 3555 02:41:29,870 --> 02:41:28,500 know people weren't used to that kind of 3556 02:41:31,490 --> 02:41:29,880 thing back then for so I think you're 3557 02:41:35,050 --> 02:41:31,500 definitely on to something now did you 3558 02:41:37,429 --> 02:41:35,060 uh did you see uh The Exorcist 3559 02:41:39,590 --> 02:41:37,439 I've seen parts of it I haven't seen it 3560 02:41:44,570 --> 02:41:39,600 all the way through okay it you know 3561 02:41:47,690 --> 02:41:44,580 it's um it's it's worth the watch 3562 02:41:50,990 --> 02:41:47,700 and yeah the re I'll tell you why it's 3563 02:41:52,250 --> 02:41:51,000 worth a watch first off it's shot on 3564 02:41:54,950 --> 02:41:52,260 film 3565 02:41:58,790 --> 02:41:54,960 it's not digital right so you get that 3566 02:42:00,770 --> 02:41:58,800 quality that washed outness that that 3567 02:42:05,630 --> 02:42:00,780 thing that you only film brings you 3568 02:42:09,230 --> 02:42:05,640 number one two yeah the story itself 3569 02:42:11,170 --> 02:42:09,240 is amazing the the book is amazing and 3570 02:42:14,330 --> 02:42:11,180 the way that it was brought to film 3571 02:42:16,790 --> 02:42:14,340 amazing it's really really really well 3572 02:42:18,710 --> 02:42:16,800 done Linda Blair 3573 02:42:22,730 --> 02:42:18,720 you know and she's just a little girl 3574 02:42:25,670 --> 02:42:22,740 right and for her to play this role 3575 02:42:29,570 --> 02:42:25,680 um in a very convincing way 3576 02:42:30,950 --> 02:42:29,580 um so the film as far as uh I guess you 3577 02:42:33,349 --> 02:42:30,960 can call it a horror film it's a 3578 02:42:36,889 --> 02:42:33,359 religious film it's a horror film 3579 02:42:39,290 --> 02:42:36,899 um it will affect you now 3580 02:42:40,730 --> 02:42:39,300 for a film like that to be that creative 3581 02:42:43,250 --> 02:42:40,740 and there was another movie that came 3582 02:42:47,210 --> 02:42:43,260 out at the same time Rosemary's Baby 3583 02:42:48,889 --> 02:42:47,220 you know so yeah yeah these two uh devil 3584 02:42:51,230 --> 02:42:48,899 films you know come out back to back 3585 02:42:54,410 --> 02:42:51,240 that were really well done 3586 02:42:59,450 --> 02:42:54,420 um but anyway so uh back to this 3587 02:43:02,030 --> 02:42:59,460 um because of the timing of this in 1972 3588 02:43:04,190 --> 02:43:02,040 um it was so well done it affected 3589 02:43:07,670 --> 02:43:04,200 people people were running out of the 3590 02:43:11,630 --> 02:43:07,680 theaters people were screaming and yeah 3591 02:43:14,150 --> 02:43:11,640 yeah there it was uh it was a film that 3592 02:43:16,190 --> 02:43:14,160 today I think it stands on its own I go 3593 02:43:19,370 --> 02:43:16,200 back and watch it every once in a while 3594 02:43:21,170 --> 02:43:19,380 it just it so well done it's a great 3595 02:43:23,570 --> 02:43:21,180 ending too 3596 02:43:24,830 --> 02:43:23,580 yeah it's it's definitely known as a 3597 02:43:26,690 --> 02:43:24,840 classic for sure yeah I got to get 3598 02:43:30,770 --> 02:43:26,700 around to it I gotta check it out for 3599 02:43:32,809 --> 02:43:30,780 sure what about Rosemary's Baby 3600 02:43:34,969 --> 02:43:32,819 no no I haven't seen that one as well 3601 02:43:37,450 --> 02:43:34,979 man Android 3602 02:43:40,670 --> 02:43:37,460 man you gotta you gotta get on your game 3603 02:43:42,170 --> 02:43:40,680 listen uh honestly I Saw The Conjuring 3604 02:43:45,349 --> 02:43:42,180 about a year ago finally got around to 3605 02:43:47,450 --> 02:43:45,359 that one oh okay well okay that that's 3606 02:43:52,130 --> 02:43:47,460 that's a horror film 3607 02:43:56,270 --> 02:43:52,140 all right yeah but no the the difference 3608 02:43:59,090 --> 02:43:56,280 with uh uh The Exorcist and Rosemary's 3609 02:44:02,750 --> 02:43:59,100 Baby this is 3610 02:44:05,809 --> 02:44:02,760 um uh these are art films 3611 02:44:08,690 --> 02:44:05,819 okay it's art it's art it's not now now 3612 02:44:11,389 --> 02:44:08,700 what happened so look man Rosemary's 3613 02:44:16,790 --> 02:44:11,399 Baby you have 3614 02:44:19,670 --> 02:44:16,800 um a two-hour film where 90 minutes of 3615 02:44:20,990 --> 02:44:19,680 it right an hour and a half you don't 3616 02:44:24,349 --> 02:44:21,000 see anything 3617 02:44:29,030 --> 02:44:24,359 no no no no no no no this is just blood 3618 02:44:30,889 --> 02:44:29,040 no this is just right and and it's only 3619 02:44:36,230 --> 02:44:30,899 the last 3620 02:44:38,809 --> 02:44:36,240 minutes of the film maybe uh where where 3621 02:44:42,349 --> 02:44:38,819 things break loose and that's the setup 3622 02:44:43,790 --> 02:44:42,359 it's an art film 100 100 isn't that kind 3623 02:44:45,650 --> 02:44:43,800 of how like Blair Witch follows that 3624 02:44:48,290 --> 02:44:45,660 kind of theme right 3625 02:44:50,690 --> 02:44:48,300 um Rosemary's Baby 3626 02:44:53,050 --> 02:44:50,700 um without you need to just go and watch 3627 02:44:55,870 --> 02:44:53,060 it okay but the thing is 3628 02:45:00,110 --> 02:44:55,880 Rosemary's Baby is a husband and wife 3629 02:45:03,110 --> 02:45:00,120 that uh live in New York City uh move 3630 02:45:05,030 --> 02:45:03,120 into an apartment building and people in 3631 02:45:07,790 --> 02:45:05,040 this apartment building aren't what they 3632 02:45:11,030 --> 02:45:07,800 seem but they don't know that yet 3633 02:45:12,889 --> 02:45:11,040 um and and she's and they're they're you 3634 02:45:16,790 --> 02:45:12,899 know they're just gotten married and 3635 02:45:20,510 --> 02:45:16,800 think and um and they want to have a 3636 02:45:21,410 --> 02:45:20,520 baby and and so that's what the film is 3637 02:45:25,309 --> 02:45:21,420 about 3638 02:45:28,010 --> 02:45:25,319 right and so that's now what happens in 3639 02:45:31,910 --> 02:45:28,020 the end and and everything else that's 3640 02:45:34,750 --> 02:45:31,920 the build up but um okay uh it's a it's 3641 02:45:37,610 --> 02:45:34,760 a powerful film man it's it's 3642 02:45:40,330 --> 02:45:37,620 John cassavetes oh 3643 02:45:42,950 --> 02:45:40,340 oh man Mia Farrow 3644 02:45:44,690 --> 02:45:42,960 man you're piping me up for this like I 3645 02:45:47,750 --> 02:45:44,700 really gotta check it out now yeah yeah 3646 02:45:49,010 --> 02:45:47,760 it's it's it's it's really well done I 3647 02:45:51,110 --> 02:45:49,020 remember 3648 02:45:55,550 --> 02:45:51,120 um uh when I 3649 02:45:57,170 --> 02:45:55,560 the first time I didn't see it when it 3650 02:46:00,650 --> 02:45:57,180 came out I was too young 3651 02:46:03,110 --> 02:46:00,660 but uh I end up uh seeing it on 3652 02:46:06,490 --> 02:46:03,120 videotape later 3653 02:46:09,710 --> 02:46:06,500 um that film messed with me so much 3654 02:46:12,349 --> 02:46:09,720 because John cassavetti's 3655 02:46:15,290 --> 02:46:12,359 um uh such a great actor Mia Farrow the 3656 02:46:17,750 --> 02:46:15,300 the way that it plays through 3657 02:46:20,090 --> 02:46:17,760 um uh how do I say this I'm gonna say 3658 02:46:22,130 --> 02:46:20,100 this in the right way you are it's it's 3659 02:46:23,929 --> 02:46:22,140 just a normal 3660 02:46:25,490 --> 02:46:23,939 it's like a documentary it's like I 3661 02:46:28,849 --> 02:46:25,500 think you know a husband and wife living 3662 02:46:30,530 --> 02:46:28,859 in New York you don't see 3663 02:46:34,370 --> 02:46:30,540 what's coming 3664 02:46:37,250 --> 02:46:34,380 no you you don't and it really really 3665 02:46:39,050 --> 02:46:37,260 messed with me and especially that's 3666 02:46:40,490 --> 02:46:39,060 actually how like that's that's how 3667 02:46:42,170 --> 02:46:40,500 Sixth Sense mess with me I mean that's 3668 02:46:43,550 --> 02:46:42,180 gonna date me I was like 12 when I 3669 02:46:46,190 --> 02:46:43,560 watched that and it messed with me for 3670 02:46:47,510 --> 02:46:46,200 weeks after that every time I I turned 3671 02:46:50,210 --> 02:46:47,520 my head I thought I was going to see a 3672 02:46:52,190 --> 02:46:50,220 bloody face ghost or something I mean it 3673 02:46:54,710 --> 02:46:52,200 was just it was terrifying well see 3674 02:46:58,429 --> 02:46:54,720 that's a that's such a great Point 3675 02:47:01,250 --> 02:46:58,439 that's why Rosemary's baby is so 3676 02:47:04,190 --> 02:47:01,260 freaking scary and especially because 3677 02:47:06,349 --> 02:47:04,200 you don't see anything scary until the 3678 02:47:09,590 --> 02:47:06,359 last you know 10 minutes of the movie 3679 02:47:12,530 --> 02:47:09,600 last five minutes of the movie that's it 3680 02:47:15,410 --> 02:47:12,540 um when you now after you see the movie 3681 02:47:17,210 --> 02:47:15,420 and and you see the characters and and 3682 02:47:20,150 --> 02:47:17,220 the doctor and and everybody that's 3683 02:47:21,469 --> 02:47:20,160 around them that's part of this I I just 3684 02:47:23,030 --> 02:47:21,479 I don't want to give it away because you 3685 02:47:25,490 --> 02:47:23,040 need to watch it but I'll just say like 3686 02:47:27,770 --> 02:47:25,500 a cult it's a cult 3687 02:47:32,809 --> 02:47:27,780 um uh when you go back and watch the 3688 02:47:35,210 --> 02:47:32,819 movie a second time and and you see how 3689 02:47:38,870 --> 02:47:35,220 it's all set up and you see the 3690 02:47:40,550 --> 02:47:38,880 characters oh man no it's it's a it's a 3691 02:47:42,290 --> 02:47:40,560 it's a great movie Man 3692 02:47:43,429 --> 02:47:42,300 uh no yeah there's little hints you 3693 02:47:46,010 --> 02:47:43,439 don't pick up on the first time 3694 02:47:48,770 --> 02:47:46,020 basically oh no not at all 3695 02:47:51,469 --> 02:47:48,780 no not at all the movie is I I remember 3696 02:47:54,170 --> 02:47:51,479 going man but what's so scary about this 3697 02:47:57,770 --> 02:47:54,180 What's So Scary what's so scary and then 3698 02:48:00,230 --> 02:47:57,780 and then yeah yeah yeah yeah so all 3699 02:48:01,790 --> 02:48:00,240 right well thank you Android and uh 3700 02:48:03,349 --> 02:48:01,800 behave and be well and we'll see you 3701 02:48:04,309 --> 02:48:03,359 tomorrow night man we got Richard Dolan 3702 02:48:06,349 --> 02:48:04,319 on the show 3703 02:48:07,790 --> 02:48:06,359 all right thanks brother looking to it 3704 02:48:10,190 --> 02:48:07,800 have a good night 3705 02:48:12,349 --> 02:48:10,200 all right go back to attempting God go 3706 02:48:13,210 --> 02:48:12,359 back Lee tappy 3707 02:48:24,170 --> 02:48:13,220 um 3708 02:48:26,630 --> 02:48:24,180 Trader and I talked about this in the 3709 02:48:30,050 --> 02:48:26,640 opening of the show we hear so much 3710 02:48:33,469 --> 02:48:30,060 about you know sleep paralysis and I 3711 02:48:36,889 --> 02:48:33,479 believe that I I had an experience with 3712 02:48:40,670 --> 02:48:36,899 it one time I've talked about it before 3713 02:48:43,670 --> 02:48:40,680 um now here's I want to back up when I 3714 02:48:46,910 --> 02:48:43,680 was uh talking 3715 02:48:49,910 --> 02:48:46,920 um about the Bluetooth speaker 3716 02:48:51,349 --> 02:48:49,920 that is you know wired up to my not 3717 02:48:56,389 --> 02:48:51,359 wired it's 3718 02:48:58,550 --> 02:48:56,399 a networked to my uh paired with my iPad 3719 02:49:01,190 --> 02:48:58,560 so 3720 02:49:04,670 --> 02:49:01,200 here's the thing 3721 02:49:07,250 --> 02:49:04,680 the echo that I keep talking about right 3722 02:49:09,170 --> 02:49:07,260 so just imagine you know the echo it's 3723 02:49:11,570 --> 02:49:09,180 in a room and you know it's an echo it's 3724 02:49:14,809 --> 02:49:11,580 an echo of a voice and and you can hear 3725 02:49:17,210 --> 02:49:14,819 it and and it can be annoying because it 3726 02:49:19,730 --> 02:49:17,220 is an echo 3727 02:49:21,889 --> 02:49:19,740 um all right okay 3728 02:49:24,530 --> 02:49:21,899 but I know that the echo was going on 3729 02:49:28,130 --> 02:49:24,540 and when I say 3730 02:49:31,370 --> 02:49:28,140 that certain because it's not every 3731 02:49:33,170 --> 02:49:31,380 audio book that I listen to if it's a 3732 02:49:34,550 --> 02:49:33,180 female maybe it's a higher pitch you 3733 02:49:37,370 --> 02:49:34,560 know it's the Reflections in the room 3734 02:49:39,410 --> 02:49:37,380 and it's the Timber and maybe even the 3735 02:49:44,450 --> 02:49:39,420 pacing of it 3736 02:49:46,969 --> 02:49:44,460 um uh uh amplifies this Echo 3737 02:49:48,230 --> 02:49:46,979 so but last night it was it was pretty 3738 02:49:52,610 --> 02:49:48,240 prevalent 3739 02:49:55,490 --> 02:49:52,620 and uh so as as as I fall asleep last 3740 02:49:57,950 --> 02:49:55,500 night now going back to like sleep 3741 02:50:03,110 --> 02:49:57,960 paralysis okay 3742 02:50:05,750 --> 02:50:03,120 so when this Echo and I'm Dreaming this 3743 02:50:08,889 --> 02:50:05,760 it's kind of like a lucid dream 3744 02:50:14,090 --> 02:50:08,899 um I'm aware that I'm dreaming 3745 02:50:15,830 --> 02:50:14,100 and I hear the echo I'm listening to the 3746 02:50:19,370 --> 02:50:15,840 echo in my dream 3747 02:50:22,309 --> 02:50:19,380 and the echo then is no longer an echo 3748 02:50:25,010 --> 02:50:22,319 it's now its own conversation 3749 02:50:26,990 --> 02:50:25,020 I don't hear the echo anymore 3750 02:50:29,150 --> 02:50:27,000 it's now 3751 02:50:31,849 --> 02:50:29,160 another conversation 3752 02:50:33,950 --> 02:50:31,859 but I'm aware of it 3753 02:50:35,870 --> 02:50:33,960 I need you to understand this I'm aware 3754 02:50:39,410 --> 02:50:35,880 of it I can hear it 3755 02:50:44,410 --> 02:50:39,420 so as this is going on 3756 02:50:48,469 --> 02:50:44,420 last night this new voice the echo voice 3757 02:50:51,290 --> 02:50:48,479 is now talking to 3758 02:50:55,190 --> 02:50:51,300 things in my dream 3759 02:50:57,650 --> 02:50:55,200 and I'm aware of it and I can hear it 3760 02:51:01,090 --> 02:50:57,660 and I allow it to go on and I'm 3761 02:51:03,710 --> 02:51:01,100 listening to it and and 3762 02:51:06,650 --> 02:51:03,720 uh very lucid 3763 02:51:09,770 --> 02:51:06,660 also very frightening 3764 02:51:12,290 --> 02:51:09,780 because I am convinced that this is 3765 02:51:16,429 --> 02:51:12,300 actually going on 3766 02:51:21,590 --> 02:51:16,439 so the what was so frightening to me 3767 02:51:22,429 --> 02:51:21,600 was when I woke up intentionally by the 3768 02:51:25,670 --> 02:51:22,439 way 3769 02:51:30,710 --> 02:51:25,680 snapped out of this dream 3770 02:51:33,050 --> 02:51:30,720 and it was kind of like a a sleep 3771 02:51:35,450 --> 02:51:33,060 paralysis moment 3772 02:51:39,650 --> 02:51:35,460 now in sleep paralysis you wake up you 3773 02:51:42,290 --> 02:51:39,660 can't move there's reasons for that 3774 02:51:44,270 --> 02:51:42,300 um your body is shut down and 3775 02:51:46,910 --> 02:51:44,280 it needs time to turn back on and 3776 02:51:50,210 --> 02:51:46,920 there's been lots of 3777 02:51:52,790 --> 02:51:50,220 um uh Medical 3778 02:51:55,309 --> 02:51:52,800 research that you know what what causes 3779 02:51:58,130 --> 02:51:55,319 sleep paralysis and I think it's a very 3780 02:52:00,050 --> 02:51:58,140 real thing all right so when do you come 3781 02:52:03,950 --> 02:52:00,060 up and you can't move okay 3782 02:52:06,590 --> 02:52:03,960 so I was kind of in that moment now I 3783 02:52:12,469 --> 02:52:06,600 could move it's not the point but the 3784 02:52:15,410 --> 02:52:12,479 point is when I came out of the dream 3785 02:52:18,710 --> 02:52:15,420 I could still hear 3786 02:52:23,510 --> 02:52:18,720 the echo carrying on a separate 3787 02:52:28,370 --> 02:52:23,520 conversation from the real voice 3788 02:52:35,570 --> 02:52:31,190 and that was the frightening part 3789 02:52:37,969 --> 02:52:35,580 where I'm I'm in this lucid dream I know 3790 02:52:39,530 --> 02:52:37,979 that I'm Dreaming I can hear this when I 3791 02:52:44,330 --> 02:52:39,540 came out 3792 02:52:47,150 --> 02:52:44,340 of the dream which I did intentionally 3793 02:52:50,389 --> 02:52:47,160 I could hear the voice 3794 02:52:54,469 --> 02:52:50,399 that was separate from the echo now is 3795 02:52:59,090 --> 02:52:54,479 this my brain like sleep paralysis right 3796 02:53:02,690 --> 02:52:59,100 where my brain is still the imagination 3797 02:53:05,389 --> 02:53:02,700 is now become real 3798 02:53:07,870 --> 02:53:05,399 it was such a freaky thing and that only 3799 02:53:12,050 --> 02:53:07,880 lasted 3800 02:53:13,429 --> 02:53:12,060 it continued I'm going to say I think I 3801 02:53:17,090 --> 02:53:13,439 said earlier because I thought about 3802 02:53:20,570 --> 02:53:17,100 this uh this morning I'm gonna say five 3803 02:53:24,170 --> 02:53:20,580 or ten seconds not very long but it was 3804 02:53:26,929 --> 02:53:24,180 long enough for me to go what 3805 02:53:30,250 --> 02:53:26,939 you mean the voice is real I actually 3806 02:53:34,070 --> 02:53:30,260 thought I had this thought and I mean 3807 02:53:38,809 --> 02:53:34,080 I've for a second there 3808 02:53:40,670 --> 02:53:38,819 I freaked I did I did and then I said to 3809 02:53:43,550 --> 02:53:40,680 myself 3810 02:53:45,830 --> 02:53:43,560 Jimmy you know 3811 02:53:47,510 --> 02:53:45,840 it's not real 3812 02:53:49,969 --> 02:53:47,520 you know this 3813 02:53:52,490 --> 02:53:49,979 and I turned around the voice is still 3814 02:53:54,710 --> 02:53:52,500 going I turned around and I hit 3815 02:53:57,170 --> 02:53:54,720 stop 3816 02:54:00,950 --> 02:53:57,180 I'm the speaker you know it's got a play 3817 02:54:02,630 --> 02:54:00,960 Rewind fast forward pause stop play 3818 02:54:06,349 --> 02:54:02,640 buttons across the top of the speaker 3819 02:54:09,950 --> 02:54:06,359 and I hit stop 3820 02:54:13,190 --> 02:54:09,960 the room went silent and that Echo voice 3821 02:54:15,969 --> 02:54:13,200 that was doing its own it stopped too 3822 02:54:20,269 --> 02:54:15,979 and I was in 3823 02:54:25,010 --> 02:54:21,950 yeah 3824 02:54:32,269 --> 02:54:25,020 I didn't dig it 3825 02:54:33,710 --> 02:54:32,279 here's the thing so I said to Dave 3826 02:54:38,809 --> 02:54:33,720 um 3827 02:54:44,090 --> 02:54:40,790 it was kind of fun 3828 02:54:47,389 --> 02:54:44,100 so when I when I went back to sleep 3829 02:54:49,969 --> 02:54:47,399 on my back by the way can't do it 3830 02:54:52,190 --> 02:54:49,979 um in the silent which I can never sleep 3831 02:54:53,750 --> 02:54:52,200 in silence but I guess I was just too 3832 02:54:55,849 --> 02:54:53,760 tired 3833 02:54:58,070 --> 02:54:55,859 um I went back to sleep and when I woke 3834 02:55:01,190 --> 02:54:58,080 up this morning 3835 02:55:04,910 --> 02:55:01,200 I remembered everything 3836 02:55:09,050 --> 02:55:04,920 I did I did I woke up uh it was like 8 3837 02:55:13,309 --> 02:55:12,410 and uh and I get up and I stood up and I 3838 02:55:16,550 --> 02:55:13,319 walked 3839 02:55:19,670 --> 02:55:16,560 into the bathroom and I looked into the 3840 02:55:23,570 --> 02:55:19,680 mirror and said out loud 3841 02:55:26,090 --> 02:55:23,580 that was crazy 3842 02:55:29,990 --> 02:55:26,100 and I and I just 3843 02:55:32,450 --> 02:55:30,000 went back and I'm recalling everything 3844 02:55:34,450 --> 02:55:32,460 in my mind what what started it off 3845 02:55:36,469 --> 02:55:34,460 which was the Hat Man 3846 02:55:39,530 --> 02:55:36,479 Documentary I think that's what it was 3847 02:55:41,750 --> 02:55:39,540 called that the Hat Man The Shadow 3848 02:55:44,530 --> 02:55:41,760 a hat man 3849 02:55:48,290 --> 02:55:44,540 that documentary number one number two 3850 02:55:50,870 --> 02:55:48,300 of all the things in the world Jay Allen 3851 02:55:54,290 --> 02:55:50,880 heineck's report 3852 02:55:56,929 --> 02:55:54,300 of Project Blue Book 3853 02:56:00,170 --> 02:55:56,939 what 3854 02:56:02,809 --> 02:56:00,180 and and I sat there and I played this 3855 02:56:06,769 --> 02:56:02,819 back in my mind this morning 3856 02:56:08,150 --> 02:56:06,779 that that first instance and and I I 3857 02:56:11,269 --> 02:56:08,160 remember 3858 02:56:13,550 --> 02:56:11,279 when I when I woke up in the little gray 3859 02:56:15,290 --> 02:56:13,560 alien dude that was a dream it didn't 3860 02:56:20,330 --> 02:56:15,300 happen 3861 02:56:23,389 --> 02:56:20,340 um I said to myself what was heinek 3862 02:56:26,150 --> 02:56:23,399 writing about in the book that caused 3863 02:56:29,389 --> 02:56:26,160 that to trigger 3864 02:56:31,790 --> 02:56:29,399 and the next stage now I'm going back to 3865 02:56:34,490 --> 02:56:31,800 the salad thing 3866 02:56:36,469 --> 02:56:34,500 the next stage to have all three of 3867 02:56:39,170 --> 02:56:36,479 these things combine 3868 02:56:41,630 --> 02:56:39,180 in a very lucid way and I knew I was 3869 02:56:45,469 --> 02:56:41,640 dreaming the whole time 3870 02:56:47,349 --> 02:56:45,479 the shadow hat man dude the grays 3871 02:56:51,290 --> 02:56:47,359 and 3872 02:56:52,610 --> 02:56:51,300 the echo voice that started talking on 3873 02:56:54,469 --> 02:56:52,620 its own 3874 02:56:57,710 --> 02:56:54,479 I'm telling you man 3875 02:57:00,290 --> 02:56:57,720 it was and I knew it I knew it I'm 3876 02:57:03,530 --> 02:57:00,300 telling you I set myself up 3877 02:57:04,849 --> 02:57:03,540 100 I set myself up I listened to all of 3878 02:57:07,550 --> 02:57:04,859 it it was crazy 3879 02:57:09,710 --> 02:57:07,560 it was absolutely nuts so here I am I'm 3880 02:57:12,010 --> 02:57:09,720 at the end of the show tonight 3881 02:57:16,370 --> 02:57:12,020 um I've got all the Fixins for the salad 3882 02:57:18,590 --> 02:57:16,380 I'm definitely going to do that 3883 02:57:20,750 --> 02:57:18,600 um and I'm going to think of my options 3884 02:57:22,730 --> 02:57:20,760 now Dave said you can't mess up the 3885 02:57:25,490 --> 02:57:22,740 experiment you got to go you got to go 3886 02:57:27,769 --> 02:57:25,500 with scary stuff you can't go timid you 3887 02:57:31,130 --> 02:57:27,779 know I can't listen to Sean Carroll or 3888 02:57:33,950 --> 02:57:31,140 Brian green or Michio Kaku in a book on 3889 02:57:36,410 --> 02:57:33,960 physics I got I gotta go back okay all 3890 02:57:38,269 --> 02:57:36,420 right I'm gonna think about that but I'm 3891 02:57:40,250 --> 02:57:38,279 definitely gonna do the salad 3892 02:57:42,170 --> 02:57:40,260 I'm going to think about what I'm going 3893 02:57:45,650 --> 02:57:42,180 to watch I'm going to do this in stages 3894 02:57:48,410 --> 02:57:45,660 and I'm going to go back and and and 3895 02:57:50,570 --> 02:57:48,420 listen to an audiobook and I'm going to 3896 02:57:53,030 --> 02:57:50,580 see what's going to happen I set myself 3897 02:57:54,290 --> 02:57:53,040 up for it last night and it was a lot of 3898 02:57:57,170 --> 02:57:54,300 fun so I'm going to do the same thing 3899 02:58:01,190 --> 02:57:57,180 tomorrow night here on Fade to Black Our 3900 02:58:04,550 --> 02:58:01,200 Guest is Richard Dolan and we are going 3901 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